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15 Jun 2004, 00:06 (Ref:1004183)
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Just an idea
While watching the Canadian GP I had an idea about saving (some) costs while improving safety, in the pitlane anyway. The idea? Simply that each team is only issued with 15 paddock passes for each GP. With two drivers, 1 technical director, 1 team principal and 1 pr/media person this allows a team just 10 mechanics.
With only 10 mechanics you wouldn't get the forest of people around a car at pitstops (less people to be run over) and it would restrict the changes that could be made to a car as there wouldn't be the people to make the changes. The teams would save money as there would be a lot less people to transport/accomodate/feed. What do you think? |
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15 Jun 2004, 00:19 (Ref:1004194)
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Not sure 10 would even cover the PR people each team has to be honest, let alone Flavio's hair stylest crew.
I do like the idea of limiting the number of people working on the car, however it is amazing watching so many people work so well together for those 6-8 seconds. Unbelievable! Your biggest problem here is that would increase the pit stop time, therefor reducing the number of pit stops, and Max and Bernie seem pretty keen on them (personally I would ban them completely). |
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15 Jun 2004, 01:25 (Ref:1004214)
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I agree with Wrex. I personally do not see the point of having 20 people dashing around the car...it's quite pointless (besides speeding up the pit process), and it's quite dangerous as an accident could easily put many people at risk.
I don't really want a complete ban on pitstops, but i think with lesser people, resulting in longer pitstops, it would go about to discourage pitstops... Maybe a mechanic per wheel, 2 jackmen, a "supervising" lollipop man/cum coordinator, 1 fuel man, 1/or 2 general mechanic in case of accident repairs..10 people would do enough. |
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15 Jun 2004, 02:15 (Ref:1004223)
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10? Give em 1 then - that will keep them busy
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15 Jun 2004, 02:44 (Ref:1004233)
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 Simply ban refueling and limit the number of tyres on race day.2 sets,the tyres they quailified on and another set for use on race day.One man per wheel 2 jackmen and the controler.Thats 7.If they get a puncture tough.8 tyres for race day. The Grumpy1 
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15 Jun 2004, 07:28 (Ref:1004329)
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Bah, just make the driver refill all by himself, then check his tyre pressure, oil, clean windshield etc like every real man
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15 Jun 2004, 07:52 (Ref:1004345)
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then queue up and pay.....
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15 Jun 2004, 08:21 (Ref:1004380)
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I think that, as Wrexie pointed out, that current pitting is an important element of spectacle, with all those crews moving like grasshoppers round the car.
If they limitate numbers of PR personnel, no problem to me, of course, but mechanics must be kept like they are right now. |
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15 Jun 2004, 08:22 (Ref:1004382)
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Hmm...then they might as well all have to drive into a petrol station sited beside the start/finish? Service would be provided by the friendly pump attendent randomly picked from petrol stations around the world..
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15 Jun 2004, 08:31 (Ref:1004395)
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no . not random . i'll have to do the selection myself
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15 Jun 2004, 09:11 (Ref:1004427)
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The PR and marketing people are a part of bringing in sponsorship to the team - and their prescence is a net gain financially.
If you want to put a limit on how many people can be involved in a pitstop, then fine, but limiting paddock passes is not the way to do that. |
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15 Jun 2004, 09:15 (Ref:1004432)
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If Ferrari have to wait in a queue as long as I do at Shell this championship could be on again
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15 Jun 2004, 10:07 (Ref:1004496)
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I have a better idea
Just ban max and bernie from every race for evermore.Better still just ban them f1 fixed overnight |
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15 Jun 2004, 10:54 (Ref:1004530)
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If it hadn't been for Bernie we wouldn't be seeing live coverage of every Grand Prix.
Have a look at what things were like before he arrived on the scene. Max and Bernie have done more good for F1 than bad. |
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15 Jun 2004, 11:16 (Ref:1004555)
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15 Jun 2004, 11:28 (Ref:1004576)
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V8 stuporcars, IRL and CART all limit the numbers of crew that can work on a car during a pitstop, and it does not seem to make tham that much slower.
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15 Jun 2004, 12:48 (Ref:1004681)
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At the mo, the one who makes laugh is the Williams front jacker.
He sweats and farts as he wheels in this huge sort of chrome coffee table / tea trolley with handle (like you see in old folks homes) - then stands back with a cool swagger and presses the button to lift the car - with his little finger crooked like he is drinking tea from a china cup. I'd love to press that button. How about making them jack the cars up on a soft shale surface with a 30 degree tilt - that's what always seems to happen to me when I need to change a wheel. Last edited by Hugh Jarce; 15 Jun 2004 at 12:51. |
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15 Jun 2004, 17:53 (Ref:1005039)
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i always wondered about that guy . why did they need that tool . when everybody else does the same job without it ...
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15 Jun 2004, 19:03 (Ref:1005135)
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It's all to do with the shape of their front end I guess - or else its just for show - 'ours has a button - yours doesn't' kinda thing
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15 Jun 2004, 19:04 (Ref:1005136)
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Yes - I think they do it just because they can.
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