The Best/Most Succesful BTCC NGTC Car ??

[mick bennett]

https://touringcarmagazine.co.uk/202...st-successful/

[thetool]

Car doesn't matter. Engineering does. I think the obvious choice is Antonio Carrozza and his partnership with Ash Sutton.

[Inside BTCC]

To be updated post Brands Hatch: https://insidebtcc.com/stats-the-ngt...gtc-car-stats/

[BTCC frog]

The BMW 3-series has, I think, been consistently the best car of its era with the exception of 2023 and possibly 2021. Sometimes Sutton and Ingram have beaten it to titles but I think that was down to driver more than car.

The Honda Civic FK2 is also an obvious choice for its early domination and longevity.

At its peak, the Subaru Levorg was something special. Same with the Toyota Avensis which took a long time to get going but was fantastic in 2018.

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by BTCC frog

The BMW 3-series has, I think, been consistently the best car of its era with the exception of 2023 and possibly 2021. Sometimes Sutton and Ingram have beaten it to titles but I think that was down to driver more than car.

The Honda Civic FK2 is also an obvious choice for its early domination and longevity.

At its peak, the Subaru Levorg was something special. Same with the Toyota Avensis which took a long time to get going but was fantastic in 2018.

The Levorg was either a genius feat of engineering or a masterclass in how to bend the rules. The Avensis was great in the hands of Tom Ingram and Speedworks, it wasn't that impressive elsewhere though.

[crmalcolm]

I think it has to be the Frederico Turrata homologation of the Q50 in 2020.

In it's first two years on the track -
2x Drivers' Championships.
2x Independent Drivers' Championships.
1x Teams' Championship.
2x Independent Teams' Championship.

[SV8Predator]

Umm, I'm not sure all that success was down to Federico.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I think it has to be the Frederico Turrata homologation of the Q50 in 2020.

In it's first two years on the track -
2x Drivers' Championships.
2x Independent Drivers' Championships.
1x Teams' Championship.
2x Independent Teams' Championship.

I would argue that is as much down to the driver as to the car. The 4 driver titles are all the same person, who also put in the bulk of the effort towards the team's titles

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by SV8Predator

Umm, I'm not sure all that success was down to Federico.

As with all success, there is a whole team behind it.

It was him though who identified the potential in the car and kick-started the process towards the 2020 homologation.

Obviously you have to add in the existing experience of the team at LTR, and the input from Erik Turlejski and the rest of Hexathron.
And then of course there is Sutton's input, as well as the BMR crew and Antonio Carrozza.

[DaviePHD]

I think the saddest thing about this list is that the Subaru Levorg isn't on it.

The car was an absolute weapon before it was hobbled by all the so called "BOP" measures.

At the time it left a sour taste, especially as the race car was taking advantage of the road versions natural advantages.

As a manufacturer Subaru was about as welcome as a fart in a space suit.

[coffinpilot]

Interesting list.

I'd say that there are other cars that are better, but, it's a list based on actual statistics rather than what you think is better. I suppose it's like a football league table.
Like back in the day under Keegan we (Newcastle) were a better side than Man U, but that doesn't matter. They won the title.

Interesting stats mind, didn't know about that Turkington raced two different versions of the BMW 330 and one came out of retirement. But that MG6 has an interesting history. Bit of a sad a**e end to the end of its racing career!