Rally Cross Grand Prix 2004

[Steve Gibson]

I have just noticed that all referance to this event seems to have dissapered from the topics, so I thought "better get it back into the system".

The event is growing all the time and DDMC are expecting around 24 Division 1 cars to do battle.
Also a couple of the biggest names in Rallycross are now beginning to realise what they are going to miss and are negotiating to come, watch this space or visit www.britishrallycrossgp.com

See you all at Croft on the 6th and 7th November

[bigted]

So do u still need marshals?

[chunder]

Shame you haven't really got any of the biggest names iin Europe going, only reaally Isaachsen and a few other C final guys. No chance of getting Jernberg,Eklund,Kenny etc?
Also what about the Supernational boys, they were superb last time and would be worth the trip, otherwise it looks like being a glorified BRC encounter to be honest. I know how hard it is the attract the europeans, they demand so much travel money but if you dont get em you wont get the people to watch!

[Barrie]

Big names are starting to get interested. Can't say alot more. It was always a GP feature that some of the more exotic and extrovert, cars drivers are the ones that stay in the memory, "sideways Stefan Johansson", "2 speed Opel Monza Chevrolet", etc. Looking at the entry it looks full of interesting unseen cars.

[Steve Gibson]

Chunder
Why not visit the glorified BRC web site and see all the non BRC drivers that are already confirmed and as said the others like the names you list are in negotiation.
if you can let me know which BRC rounds that any of the continental drivers have entered then you would have the right to call it a glorified BRC round!
Do you come from south of Watford?

[Steve Gibson]

Barrie
By the way nice to have somebody who thinks this event will be good and not knocking what they don't know anything about.

[chunder]

Sense of humnour failure alert mate
The British Rallycross GP "used to have the best drivers in Europe competing in it.
Presume you are from the same clan that are planning to destory any last vestige of the spotr in the UK, you have the same arrogant attitude!
I have to say there are some interesing cars, but as yet the Inter Nations Cup looks like a UK affair and a few guys in cobbled together supercars thouhg interesting from a tecjh point of view are not gonna get the crowds in, or are the "top drivers from Europe" reall gonna turn up!
Calm down, its only a bulletin board, Ill be there!!

[Steve Gibson]

I have a very good sense of humour and as i don't know you I cannot be your mate!
As for an arrogant attitude if you did know me you would know that
A) I am not in the least bit arrogant.
B) I dont have an attitude.
C) I only do what i do because i enjoy it so much.
And guess what I am not in the clan that are doing what they are doing, which if you want my opinion, anything that might be better than what we have got can only be a good thing. But I am the chairman of the club that has risked 40 to 50k to put this event on.
Maybe if people stop knocking things just for the sake of it the whole thing may just turn out to be better in the long run. As for the best drivers in europe coming, as said before wait and see, messers Hansen and co are trying to put deals together to come as they now have realised that this is a serious event.

[golfvanman]

looking forward to the grand prix got some updated info from 2 of the organisation team at weekend and i wont miss it for the world. as for internations cup just keep watching those damn sweede's with the volvo's will be back to spoil the party but ive got a welsh flag on the side of my car and looking forward to doing battle

[Upside Down Bug]

I'm totally with Steve's comments about not knocking things all the time. It is possibly the least constructive thing that has happened in Rallycross in the UK over the last few years. Not just on the internet, but in the paddocks as well.

I have thoroughly enjoyed the two GP I have attended at Croft, as I did for the countless ones I attended at Brands in the past.

I would say though, that there is no need for the GP to compare itself against any MSA Championship event (or any other European national championship event for that matter). It is totally different and should be judged on it's own merits. It would be fantastic if the leading Europeans decide to come over. I would suggest our top racers will have the measure of them on home turf. Who can forget that great tussle between Pat Doran and Kenny Hansen of a couple of years ago!

[chunder]

Yes I agree it would be fantastic "if" they came but time is cracking on. I am only being critical of the way the event is promoted
More critiicism to be honest should levelled at the people who allowed the GP to wane from interest in the first place, and again everyone knows that if the event was at Brands or Lydden the problem would be easier to cope with
I am just very sorry about this whole them verses us thing in rallycrioss right now, why didn't these people just approach the BRDA with a package that they couldnt turn down! Then you wouldn't have all this press release and counter press release.
As for the GP, it will never be what it was, but if you've invested 50k in it then good luck to you! What crowd do you need to break even! You should persuade Pat to bring the RS200, that would put a few more on the gate

[chunder]

Oh and by the way "mate" i have been invovled with rallycross for twenty years, and do know what I am talking about really, i worked in the motorsport press for a couple of years and did my fair share of running round for events and stuff, so though i am not privvy to your little empire i do know a bit about the sport.
Cheers "mate"

[Dunnes]

youve been involved in Rallycross for 20 years and you think Pat should bring the RS200, have you read the rules?

Only joking, seems like everyone's arguing at the moment about the state of the sport. I have been watching rallycross for 2 seasons now so i am somewhat of a newbie, but imho rallycross seems to be going from strength to strength at the moment. Some craking races taking place recently with the introduction of new cars and new racers. Rallycross is on the up and i think if you sit back and think about it what is happening next year is very exciting for people like me who like to watch supercars and super modified cars. This is what the spectators pay for, although i enjoy watching minis and stockhatch for the close racing, we all know that the crowds come for the big cars. I for one will be attending every event next year (spectator) and i imagine most of the drivers will be attending both the super series after all its only 12 events (i think) altogether.
All i can really say is im looking forward to next years rallycross, something needed to happen and it is, maybe its a good thing maybe its not. Maybe its the kick up the ass the sport needed, im sure wie will all find out soon!

I personally think we should get behind both organisations and show out support whatever happend next year and in the future.

On the subject of the grand prix im looking forward to seeing over 20 supercars on display, sounds like we will have some close racing whoever turns up. Im not sure the top drivers would attract too many more fans, im sure alot of people wont know too much about rallycross never mind european drivers.

Stay positive guys, all will come good!! i have faith

Good work to all involved in the Grand prix looking good already!!! (free tickets to be sent to 16 Gran........ he he he)

[mitchymitch]

well i must butt in speaking from a point that i have attended and seen in europe many of these drivers that are entered and are by no means run of the mill. granted some of them have changed their vehicles and have been in mostly testing mode but have a look at years gone by and you'll find their names there. your not talkin weekenders here theyre serious about what they do and i'm sure word of mouth on the continant is the same as over here and we'll see the "big boys" when they realise what they'll miss!

[Spectator]

Must agree with Dunnes.
As a fellow spectator,as the name suggests, who has been following and watching rallycross for more years than I care to remember most of the paying public turn up to watch the fire breathing monsters of super car and the thrill of the super modified. This is a fact and does not detract from the stockhatch and mini cross competetors in any way. I enjoy watching all classes, its blooming cold standing around in the middle of winter along with the other sectator and his dog, and can appreciate the dedication and costs needed by the small guys as well as the vast expense of the spectacle put on by the big budget runners.
Lets stop all this bickering between people who are obviously very dedicated to a fantastic sport and start putting all that negative energy into positive thoughts as to how to maintain/ improve the thing we all enjoy.

[Roundy Mooney]

Originally posted by chunder
Would be interesing to see what happens should Nesbitt take a keen interest though.
Get McGarrity involved aswell, he could seel all the Irish the top cars aswell!

I did here a fairly definite story in Mondello that McCale will hire Dermots car next year for some events.
There's good money in that sand in gravel lark. If only I could find a nice deposit in the back Garden then maybe I could afford a outing in supercars!!!

[Cryos]

I did here a fairly definite story in Mondello that McCale will hire Dermots car next year for some events.
There's good money in that sand in gravel lark. If only I could find a nice deposit in the back Garden then maybe I could afford a outing in supercars!!!

Heard that also, Michael Coyne is on about selling the Escort, thats 5 DNF's out of 5 starts. Camshaft was the fault this time, split down the middle.

[Barrie]

I see Laurent Terrotin has been added to the entry list. The 3 times French champion will bring over his beautiful Super U sponsored Citroen Xsara. Terrotin has a really rapid car, definitely a potential winner.

[BertMk2]

Does anybody know if the GP will be shown on terrestrial TV this year? Channel 4 showed the last one with VBH presenting, hopefully they'll show it this year too....

[HrRACING]

I can't wait, its gonna be a mega event!

[Roundy Mooney]

Don't Know if this is complete waffle but it came from fairly high up. Heard in mondello that the grand prix was under treat of not running, because of a people pulling out.

Anybody know what the story is?

[RoyG]

The website's very quiet - no updates for a week.

[Queen]

I was sent a form asking if I wanted to marshal last week. So I would have thought it was still on.

[Metroman]

Just to kill any rumours before they get out of hand. The MSA British Rallycross Grand Prix & Internations Cup is very much up and running. The reason it has all been quiet is because we are all up to our eyes trying to make sure this is a cracking event that you will all enjoy.

[Cryos]

Don't Know if this is complete waffle but it came from fairly high up. Heard in mondello that the grand prix was under treat of not running, because of a people pulling out.

Anybody know what the story is?

As what Metroman said, it will be a cracking event, i am told by the higher powers that the event will be in full swing with possibly a few more drivers to enter.

Whats the word on the Irish Team ??? Roundy Mooney im looking at you, ive heard a couple of storys but you heard anything from ckmc or Mr. Lenehan ?