BAR want Michelins!!!!!!

ralf fan · 11 Oct 2003, 11:36 (Ref:747129)

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlin...11071745.shtml

No surprise really, i'm sure most of the teams like Jordon etc would want the MICHie's

**Peter Mallett** · 11 Oct 2003, 11:41 (Ref:747133)

Interesting. To say they were the second team to Ferrari and then to look at the points gap make one think that BS can't really supply more than one team.

Alternatively Ferrari are the only team able to do the tyres justice.

BARrouette · 11 Oct 2003, 11:48 (Ref:747143)

About time by the way every team should have both tires and should race " with 1 car michelin , 1 car bridgstone " that be fair or not ?

**touringlegend** · 11 Oct 2003, 11:51 (Ref:747145)

Can't blame them can you?

Surprised though with Honda and Bridgestone both being Japanese and not working together. Michelin can definitely supply more than one team equally, but as you say Peter, when Ferrari are one of your teams I know who I'd be putting my support behind.

How many teams will that be on Bridgeston next season ?

ralf fan · 11 Oct 2003, 11:52 (Ref:747146)

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About time by the way every team should have both tires and should race " with 1 car michelin , 1 car bridgstone " that be fair or not ?

No i dont think it'd be fair because basically you arent giving a fair chance to both the drivers! Rubens would struggle on Bs while Michael on BS's!! teammates would never get along because 1 was preferred to the other!

**Adam43** · 11 Oct 2003, 12:12 (Ref:747166)

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Originally posted by BARrouette
About time by the way every team should have both tires and should race " with 1 car michelin , 1 car bridgstone " that be fair or not ?

First time I heard that idea. Interesting and ultimately not a good diea I think, but interesting. Maybe each driver changes at each GP? Or each driver changes tyres at the pit stops.

I like it!!!!!!

**Peter Mallett** · 11 Oct 2003, 12:13 (Ref:747169)

You could always run Michelin on the rear and Bridgestone on the front. That way both drivers could be disadvantaged.

**Adam43** · 11 Oct 2003, 12:21 (Ref:747178)

ha!

BARrouette · 11 Oct 2003, 12:41 (Ref:747186)

Mixt tires good idea too

**touringlegend** · 11 Oct 2003, 13:45 (Ref:747237)

But if everybody ran Michelin rears and Bridgeston fronts then no one would be disadvantage!

Probably be a weird handling car though!

neilap · 11 Oct 2003, 14:31 (Ref:747266)

I think everyone knew this was coming. BAR has been hampered all year by the tires. Someone else reported this earlier in the year. I hope they do swtich. Even if BS does build better tires next year, they will be built to work with the Ferrari so its a no win situation for the other teams. The only team that could benefit is Sauber but they will never do any better than 2nd as long as they are involved with Ferrari.

I like the idea of both teams choosing from either manufacuturer. What could be done is the teams run what ever tire they feel best suits them. It would make for a really good "tire war". BS would be forced to stop their dealings with solely Ferrari because only Ferrari would run their tires and they would more than likely be struggling.

Knowlesy · 11 Oct 2003, 14:46 (Ref:747280)

BAR worst kept secret #3.....

Mr V · 11 Oct 2003, 14:56 (Ref:747290)

Brundle said a strange thing during Q2, can't remember the exact term he used but it went something like....

"Michelin said they weren't sure if they could supply BAR so would have to say yes" :confused:

Now i'll have to go and watch it again to get the right quote

Testure · 11 Oct 2003, 15:14 (Ref:747309)

I think Brundle was quoting from Michelin's press release there - "We have to supply BAR if they ask ('coz of the 60% regulation). We're thinking about it." Didn't make too much sense, because it's not their decision to make.

Every team except Ferrari will have asked Michelin for a tyre supply next year. Problem is - Jordan and Minardi are too uncompetitive to be of any use to them. Sauber are too close to Ferrari. So that only really leaves BAR.

Knowlesy · 11 Oct 2003, 15:32 (Ref:747319)

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Originally posted by Mr V

"Michelin said they weren't sure if they could supply BAR so would have to say yes" :confused:

Yeah, that was pretty much it. Very strange Michelin press releases!

ralf fan · 11 Oct 2003, 15:58 (Ref:747346)

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"Michelin is obviously obliged to respond positively."

This is from the article....... If BAR are in the regs of 60% will MICHELIN be forced to supply them??:confused: they cant turn BAR down?:confused:

it doesnt as though Michelin are too KEEN!!!

Knowlesy · 11 Oct 2003, 16:13 (Ref:747362)

They bare reportedly more keen to supply Minardi as they would give them older spec tyres, reducing the cost.

Redblurr · 11 Oct 2003, 19:10 (Ref:747480)

When I first read the thread title, I thought it said BAR want Miracles - I guess they do really

neilap · 11 Oct 2003, 19:14 (Ref:747481)

Does anyone realize that the BAR jokes are not funny anymore. They were for the first 3 years. Now its just silly really.

BAR needs reliability, not miracles.

Knowlesy · 11 Oct 2003, 19:21 (Ref:747482)

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Originally posted by Redblurr
When I first read the thread title, I thought it said BAR want Miracles - I guess they do really

The same kind of "miracles" that were bestowed upon "Team X" after being thrashed at Hungary, then.

The latest on BAR's quest for Michelins is that Bridgestone is now "considering all the legal implications involved". ie - they don't want BAR to switch suppliers. Understandable I suppose.

BARrouette · 11 Oct 2003, 19:36 (Ref:747491)

Well how would want bridgstone when ferrari has a better bridgstone than the others .Is michelin dooing the same thing?

Mr V · 11 Oct 2003, 19:36 (Ref:747492)

I don't understand this 60% regulation buisness, why should they be forced to supply a team when Bridgestone aren't? (or visa versa)

Nicholas · 11 Oct 2003, 21:54 (Ref:747618)

About time too, they should have switched when they first considered it last year

Redblurr · 11 Oct 2003, 21:59 (Ref:747621)

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Originally posted by knowlesy
The same kind of "miracles" that were bestowed upon "Team X" after being thrashed at Hungary, then.

Is that the race we found out about manufacturer X? Or do you mean the miraculous production that was ready for Monza? That was a Miracle!

BAR don't need new tyres. I read that Honda are getting impatient and rightly so - huge company that really ought to be doing better.

**Spudgun** · 12 Oct 2003, 00:09 (Ref:747681)

Just goes to show how disillusioned they are with Bridgestone. They only work with Ferrari, optimising their tyre for the Ferrari.

At least Michelin take an open approach and gather data from all their teams.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bridgestone will shoot themsleves in the foot for putting all their eggs in one basket.

Lets face it, everyone in this are there for customer recognition. To the average person on the street (by that I mean a non-F1 enthusiast) they will buy road-going tyres from companies who are doing well.

By putting all their resources into Ferrai and eveyone jumping ship, this can't be good for Bridgestone regardless of their success with Ferrari.

Ferrari's dominance has already been tested this year, so if the trend continues then Bridgestone are going to have to work with the other teams. If their tyres on their cars get beaten it's not going to help their marketing department with Joe public.

It'a all advertising. It's all money. If F1 tyres are not helping sales they'll get out.

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