Indian Grand Prix - Jaypee Group Circuit

jab · 15 Nov 2009, 12:49 (Ref:2582253)

This race has been delayed until 2011 but they've finally got round to revealing the design of the circuit holding the race, the Jaypee Group Circuit in Greater Noida

Here for masterplan - run-off areas suggest clockwise, whilst the pit straight is not the one shown on the Wiki diagram above

Looks a bit like a warped edit of new Kyalami. Doesn't strike as "ye gods that's awful" but at the same time, that's a lot of hairpins and heavy braking. Could be reasonably good

Fox89 · 15 Nov 2009, 13:04 (Ref:2582254)

Is this another one by Captain Unpopular? I mean Tilke?

Not sure about the design. I quite like that top section, looks like Suzuka for about 4 corners!

ECW Dan Selby · 15 Nov 2009, 13:18 (Ref:2582256)

Yeh I was about to say it looks like the newer Kyalami. I quite like it actually.

Selby

**Bononi** · 15 Nov 2009, 14:05 (Ref:2582271)

Long straights !!!!! Is that a consequence of "more overtaking" ?

Yannick · 15 Nov 2009, 14:18 (Ref:2582274)

That corner on the top left side of the diagram has got a nice shape. But one classic corner on a track is not enough. Still, somehow I get the impression that somebody from Bureau Tilke must have taken a look at out MyTracks sub-board on here.
Stylistically, this design looks somewhat like Tilke has copied ScotsBrutesFan's design style from about a year ago. SBF, if you read this, how would you edit this track so that it does not end up with that many sharp corners?

Sodemo · 15 Nov 2009, 16:57 (Ref:2582344)

Looks ok I guess, still too many slow corners to really get my blood going though.

Marbot · 15 Nov 2009, 17:43 (Ref:2582372)

No doubt the whole thing will be 'as flat as a pancake'.

Fox89 · 15 Nov 2009, 17:53 (Ref:2582380)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

No doubt the whole thing will be 'as flat as a pancake'.

You never know! Turkey has loads of nice elevation changes.

Marbot · 15 Nov 2009, 19:07 (Ref:2582406)

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Originally Posted by Fox89

You never know! Turkey has loads of nice elevation changes.

It's a shame that there's no one there to see them.

johntt · 15 Nov 2009, 19:27 (Ref:2582412)

I'm going to reserve judgement until:

a) We see what (if any) elevation changes there are on the track.

b) We see a Gp2 race there, Gp2 being the barometer of how much overtaking a track can produce IMO.

**Bononi** · 15 Nov 2009, 19:31 (Ref:2582414)

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Originally Posted by Fox89

You never know! Turkey has loads of nice elevation changes.

Like from Himalaia to Bombai ?

duke_toaster · 15 Nov 2009, 19:36 (Ref:2582416)

Can I be brutally honest and file this one under "not going to happen"?

Marbot · 15 Nov 2009, 19:51 (Ref:2582422)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Can I be brutally honest and file this one under "not going to happen"?

Rumour has it that the entire operation is being overseen by a Mr Simon Gillett. Rumour also has it that he has plans to put a tunnel under the Taj Mahal.

**Bononi** · 15 Nov 2009, 20:23 (Ref:2582433)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Rumour has it that the entire operation is being overseen by a Mr Simon Gillett. Rumour also has it that he has plans to put a tunnel under the Taj Mahal.

Ok I was just being sarcastic, but this is torture !

OZ_HCR32 · 16 Nov 2009, 09:31 (Ref:2582672)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Can I be brutally honest and file this one under "not going to happen"?

I think that is the best place for it. I cant see it happening and having worked in India the past 18 months i cant see anybody being particularly interested in paying the usual GP ticket prices...+ Indian govt has already stated that Motorsport-F1 is not a sport and not eligible for govt assistance meaning it has to be built with private money...+ there are so many better places to be having a GP

Matt · 16 Nov 2009, 15:12 (Ref:2582859)

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Indian govt has already stated that Motorsport-F1 is not a sport

Well, they're a bunch of idiots then.

JamesH · 16 Nov 2009, 15:22 (Ref:2582865)

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Well, they're a bunch of idiots then.

Are they?

F1 is s business, not a traditional sport. I think the Indian government is right to refuse public money that just gets transferred from where it is needed (the Indian populous), in to BE's pocket, via a £500 million track that gets used twice a year.

Matt · 16 Nov 2009, 15:37 (Ref:2582876)

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Originally Posted by JamesH

Are they?

F1 is s business, not a traditional sport. I think the Indian government is right to refuse public money that just gets transferred from where it is needed (the Indian populous), in to BE's pocket, via a £500 million track that gets used twice a year.

Still far more physically demanding than cricket.

OZ_HCR32 · 16 Nov 2009, 15:55 (Ref:2582889)

Indian govt see more value in supporting cricket, hockey, football and squash/tennis. I agree that these sports are far more deserving of govt funding and support, rather then support a sport for 100 priveleged Indians to race at home on an FIA licenced track

Taprobane · 16 Nov 2009, 16:09 (Ref:2582904)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Still far more physically demanding than cricket.

I'm guessing you've never actually played the game?

Anyway, I think the Indian government are right not to back motorsport. It doesn't make sense for them to spend money on a race track to benefit a few of the very rich when they could build a new cricket ground for example which would be of far more value to the population.

duke_toaster · 16 Nov 2009, 19:04 (Ref:2583042)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Still far more physically demanding than cricket.

Baseball makes test cricket seem like a potential sport for the X Games.

Teretonga · 17 Nov 2009, 00:57 (Ref:2583270)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Still far more physically demanding than cricket.

Professional cricketers suffer from far more muscular, joint, back, wrist, shoulder and tendon problems than any F1 driver suffers from. To suggest their sport is not physically demanding is a nonsense.

The truth is each one of them places its own demands on the body in one way or another and when pushed to a high level of reptitive performance the human body will often break down over a period of time regardless of the level of training.

Professional cricket places far more strain on muscles, tendons and joints than F1 does.
Conversely F1 requires extroidinary levels of physiological endurance, concentration, cardiovascular fitness and stamina under relatively high temperatures than many much more physically active sports

Matt · 17 Nov 2009, 03:56 (Ref:2583310)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Baseball makes test cricket seem like a potential sport for the X Games.

Whoever said I liked baseball? I think watching paint dry is more interesting.

**Bononi** · 17 Nov 2009, 23:46 (Ref:2583866)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Whoever said I liked baseball? I think watching paint dry is more interesting.

Purist · 18 Nov 2009, 03:22 (Ref:2583936)

I'm not seeing a circuit length. Anyone know if this one will also be in that ~5.4km realm?

I think this one may have more potential than a number of Tilke's other efforts, but by the same token, I'm not holding my breath on this one being that good either.

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