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4 May 2003, 14:37 (Ref:589149)
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Ralf vs the rest of the grid !
You know me and you know I´m not a Ralf Fan...
But ! He deserves a "thumbs up" mention for those battles against Michael, Fernando, Christiano and Juan Pablo. He showed some brave attitude today. 
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4 May 2003, 14:39 (Ref:589152)
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Excuse me while I pinch myself!
Great job by Ralf..but the Williams team has a lot of work to do Im afraid.. |
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4 May 2003, 14:43 (Ref:589154)
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Perhaps next week he might actually keep one of those guys behind them.
Lousy Ralf, suckling his brother's proverbial teat until the monetary milk runs dry. He's not even close to being a top driver, and this year is exposing it. |
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4 May 2003, 14:45 (Ref:589157)
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I pinched twice myself after reading what "Speed" wrote.
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4 May 2003, 14:48 (Ref:589159)
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PS: Next week ? 
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4 May 2003, 14:50 (Ref:589161)
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Yeah sure who's in a Toyota!!! lol Williams are in trouble that's for sure!...Ralf did ok.. fun to watch.
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Doesn't it seem sad that drivers like Fisichella, Coultard, Barrichello, and Ralf all have secure seats in F1, despite having had race winning cars for many more seasons than Jacques, yet failing to chalk up as many wins as he (let alone a WDC) that it is Jacques who doesn't have a drive in F1??? Sad indeed.
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4 May 2003, 14:53 (Ref:589166)
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I thought he made lots of mistakes, locking up "left and right"...I must admit that was fun to watch
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4 May 2003, 14:57 (Ref:589171)
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Da Matta never really gave it a good shot. I'm sure he didn't want to risk losing the points, which is smart on his part I think.
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4 May 2003, 14:59 (Ref:589173)
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I think he was going for it at one point but then the pit crew must have told him to back off...good for him though..3 points
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4 May 2003, 15:00 (Ref:589175)
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Yeah that's probably true Jay he needed the points today for his F1 future...doesn't say much for Ralph though.
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Doesn't it seem sad that drivers like Fisichella, Coultard, Barrichello, and Ralf all have secure seats in F1, despite having had race winning cars for many more seasons than Jacques, yet failing to chalk up as many wins as he (let alone a WDC) that it is Jacques who doesn't have a drive in F1??? Sad indeed.
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4 May 2003, 15:06 (Ref:589182)
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What affected to him was his gravel excursion when was pressured, but hey, Williams didn´t have a clue on the setting for today´s race. PS: My God, what I´m saying (writing) !!!!!!!! 
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4 May 2003, 15:58 (Ref:589226)
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Ralf had quite an action packed race but he would've loved to keep those guys behind him but Williams have major work to do as they're going backwards at the moment.
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4 May 2003, 16:06 (Ref:589239)
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Looking from the onboards from da matta's car as he was following ralf: it looked as if the williams was a real handful to drive and looked visibly slower than many other cars, especially the renault. i'm sure a wheelbarrow has got better handling and balance than that car at the moment.
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4 May 2003, 16:07 (Ref:589241)
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4 May 2003, 16:11 (Ref:589245)
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He blocked drivers he wasn't even fighting for position with, and drivers have gotten the black flag for less! |
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4 May 2003, 16:17 (Ref:589256)
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Originally posted by Lee Janotta
Aside from being the slowest car on track the last several laps! True..No handling..no grip..no balance and losing bodywork when he went on the gravel. Still, he finished 5th. He blocked drivers he wasn't even fighting for position with, and drivers have gotten the black flag for less! He didnt block anyone..Alonso was the only one who was perhaps held up a bit..all the others were fighting for position with Ralf and he was perfectly entitled to make his car as wide as possible..Here's a hint..THATS RACING! |
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4 May 2003, 16:29 (Ref:589263)
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After Alonso succeeded inlapping Da Matta and Ralf,, he was only 4.5 - 5.0 seconds behind Michael. And after that, Michael easily enlarged the gap to 6.5 seconds again. |
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4 May 2003, 16:46 (Ref:589274)
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4 May 2003, 16:53 (Ref:589278)
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Plus he ignored the blue flags being displayed. As I said, drivers have been black-flagged for less. |
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4 May 2003, 17:50 (Ref:589328)
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Ralf drove fine for the last 16 laps, I'm not gonna criticise him for that! I didn't see any blocking myself though i wasn't looking for it admittedly.
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4 May 2003, 18:04 (Ref:589337)
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Was good fun to watch but I did see the move Lee remembers, at least, heading into turn one he went defensive, then Da Matta pulled around and Ralf moved over towards him but didn't quite cut him out.
But the thing was, he kinda squeezed Wots da Matta's line again. Not super bad but it must have been annoying. And I think Christiano was having a red hot go of it but the only way Juan and Michael for example got past was when Ralf locked it so bad he went fairly wide and deep under brakes. He did it against Da Matta, but didn't give enough room for the inside. CdM nearly attacked really hard where there was near no chance and Ralf basically blocked out the more opportune sections of track. Good battle, but I think CdM was playing it very safe too, and was pressuring mostly just to try and make Ralf throw it rather than take it by possibly self damaging force. Seems Toyota's finally showing some pace. And Renault... WHEW! Did they ever get a rocket up their bums!? |
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4 May 2003, 18:59 (Ref:589372)
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i would like to thank ralf, juan and the entire bmw/williams team for their participation in the 2003 f1 world championship.....
better luck next year... |
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4 May 2003, 19:20 (Ref:589397)
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Good one Mania with your double standards. Ralf did well to keep it ahead of Da Matta but the others, his team mate included, breezed past. You and I both know that had it been Juan Pablo struggling like that in a poor handling car that came as a result of driver error you'd be the first with the heavy criticism.
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4 May 2003, 19:29 (Ref:589406)
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4 May 2003, 19:32 (Ref:589413)
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"...his handling got worse and worse". As a result of his unforced error you mean?
No you're right JPM didn't breeze past really, but he made it look easier than it was. Shall I list you a few races when Ralf has "looked ordinary and been very luck to finish where he did"? |
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