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Old 4 Oct 2003, 04:57 (Ref:740028)   #1
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FPR Special Wheels

Word on the airwaves is that FPR had designed a new wheel that would enable a much improved front suspension lay out they did this without clearance from the technical committee relying on the rule book being silent on the issue They have been told no go do not even think about it by the TEGA board if they had been allowed to do it it would have meant that everyone would have to spend a fortune on new wheels and suspension components 3 cheers for the TEGA board
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Old 4 Oct 2003, 05:07 (Ref:740034)   #2
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Word on the airwaves is that FPR had designed a new wheel that would enable a much improved front suspension lay out they did this without clearance from the technical committee relying on the rule book being silent on the issue They have been told no go do not even think about it by the TEGA board if they had been allowed to do it it would have meant that everyone would have to spend a fortune on new wheels and suspension components 3 cheers for the TEGA board
If it's within the Rules, TEGA can go and get stuffed.
They let the 6 car Holden Motorsport Team make a mockery of the Rules but stop FPR from doing something within the Rules. WTF....:confused:
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Old 4 Oct 2003, 06:00 (Ref:740046)   #3
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I thought the wheel offsets of the front wheels were agreed in one of the technical specifications?

Holden had to conform to Ford's offsets with the VY...

Dont worry about moving the team away from the 550bhp GSR donks, lets create a storm about new wheels
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Old 4 Oct 2003, 06:11 (Ref:740049)   #4
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Maybe it's a smoke screen put up by FPR. Has been done before look at the HDT A9X and Commodore and there front wheels............
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Maybe it's a smoke screen put up by FPR. Has been done before look at the HDT A9X and Commodore and there front wheels............
I think the only smokescreen will be when the antiquated GSR engines **** themselves at Bathurst
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Old 4 Oct 2003, 09:29 (Ref:740164)   #7
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But only when Glenn's driving it.
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Old 4 Oct 2003, 09:31 (Ref:740165)   #8
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Didn't an advancement in centre lock wheel nut retaining methods provide the same impetus for nearly everyone to go and adopt a similar system?
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Old 6 Oct 2003, 04:06 (Ref:741503)   #9
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When 00 turned up with those guns they should have canned them to as every one has had to spend what ever it costs to be right back at the same point.
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Old 6 Oct 2003, 05:14 (Ref:741528)   #11
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But I'm sure LSR,JFR,SER had better things to spend their money on!!!!!It is now just the same old same old,a team may get a 2 race jump on the others but once everyone gets the same gear guess what? The top teams are still on top and the back markers are still just that.Look at the control tyre thing,the teams that are winning now are the same as those that were winning before,infact there are probally less different winners since the intro of the tyres than before.Blue print the same SBR and HRT/KRT were the winners last year and are the front runners this year.We may see flashes of brillance from TB,Team Dynamic,Morris and CPR but they are just that flashes
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No arguments from me, until this category gets its testing regime shyt together, and supplies new tyres for testing, the haves and the have nots will always be miles apart...
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Old 6 Oct 2003, 05:40 (Ref:741541)   #13
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The more you restrict things the closer the times and the harder it is to move up the order.A team may get all warm and fuzzy about being only 0.6 seconds off the pole time but they are still 23rd on the grid and it is even harder to pass the next 10 cars than it was when they were 1.5 seconds slower but could actually pass the odd car.The less things that available to be altered or variable if you like then the more importance it is to Analise accurately the factors that contribute to speed,the smarter teams can and the others can't so we have the have highly intelligent engineering departments and those who don't.How you regulate the intelligence and experience of you analytical/engineering staff is beyond me and every other sanctioning body in the world
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Old 6 Oct 2003, 08:52 (Ref:741638)   #14
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FPR are probably putting up a number of smokescreens to hide the embarrasment at not having provided the engines they promised before Sandown. As testing starts on Thursday we don't have long to wait but this weekend with the F1 at Japan the Bikes at Malasia and everything at Bathurst it can't get any bigger than this weekend.
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Big question is where Mr Richards will be hanging, at the GP with Honda lovebunny Takuma Sato or at Bathurst with Craig, Glenn and all the gang
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Old 6 Oct 2003, 09:06 (Ref:741650)   #16
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Mark Webber has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
I think the GP is slightly more important
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Not really.... BARF1 have no shot in Japan, FPR has some shot here...
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Everytime someone comes up with something a little bit better, more advanced than someone else, that might give them a small improvemnt, tega are quick to dismiss the idea. Unless your HRT. Might be wrong but thats the way i see it.
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Old 7 Oct 2003, 04:23 (Ref:742552)   #19
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They should be freeing things up a bit,make the racing a bit predictable,let the cars have free g'box ratio's etc then you get not only better engineers but a chance to ,overtake.
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Perhaps they should allow 2 different final drive ratios per circuit, so that there can be a choice for each vehicle... different top speeds etc etc

Would cost nothing as the homologated bits and pieces are already in the spare parts kit...
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Gretch's idea of a soft and hard tyre would also achieve the same thing.
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It would, but the tyre makers arent that clever, so a different diff would be the elcheapo option.

Hows about all the Holdens on Dunlop and all the Fords on Bridgestone??
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not sure that a different diff would do much - for most tracks presumably either one or the other would be the optimum choice - although, I argue that diff and gearbox ratios changes should be allowed anyway (this isn't a kindergarden class after all, is it?).

hard or soft compounds however would I think (like F1) encourage some different tactical ploys which could be interesting.

shouldn't be difficult technically for Dunlop to do - would cost a bit more though (more tyres, bigger trucks,...)
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Diff's can make a bit of difference,for example Winton can be run as a 5 or 4 speed box with a high rear end and delete 1 & 2nd and PI would be a different ratio depending on the wind,it just gives teams a chance to out think v out spend the opposition.
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And we might see someone actually hit 300km/h at Bathurst
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