bad luck tander

skaife2 · 6 Dec 2008, 07:08 (Ref:2348633)

tander great comeback from penalty..it was a close call

rocks harder · 6 Dec 2008, 07:39 (Ref:2348643)

yeah i reckon it was close looked to me he went stoped before the line and went again. the onboard from jamies car looked like he went before garth

Rob Bailey · 6 Dec 2008, 07:52 (Ref:2348650)

how did MS go I missed the TV coverage?

skaife2 · 6 Dec 2008, 09:43 (Ref:2348727)

was ok..untill pitstop

bluesport · 6 Dec 2008, 10:12 (Ref:2348741)

Yes, great drive by Tander......carved them up after serving penalty. Tomorrows races should be interesting.

Pro Racer · 6 Dec 2008, 10:29 (Ref:2348753)

good stuff besides the start even though it was a tough call from GT today.

NewsStalker · 6 Dec 2008, 11:33 (Ref:2348787)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocks harder

yeah i reckon it was close looked to me he went stoped before the line and went again. the onboard from jamies car looked like he went before garth

That's part of the problem - once the red light comes on you cannot move - you move, jumped start penalty.

alfacors · 6 Dec 2008, 12:07 (Ref:2348809)

I wonder what would happen if he just dumped it as soon as the reds come on, and gained a massive lead..... rather than stop starting and losing any advantage gained in the first place.... would they apply the same 10s penalty? Might be worth doing.... if you're going to get pinged for a jumpstart, you might as well gain as much advantage from it as possible right?

jezz · 6 Dec 2008, 14:14 (Ref:2348882)

to get a good enough jump to try and make a gain, you would need to jump by about 10 ses right, the officials would just abort the start and have another formation lap.

Good theory though.

xrystl · 6 Dec 2008, 19:28 (Ref:2349121)

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfacors

I wonder what would happen if he just dumped it as soon as the reds come on, and gained a massive lead..... rather than stop starting and losing any advantage gained in the first place.... would they apply the same 10s penalty? Might be worth doing.... if you're going to get pinged for a jumpstart, you might as well gain as much advantage from it as possible right?

No , IIRC at the start of the season it was asked if this happened what was the penalty , drive through penalty applied.

NewsStalker · 6 Dec 2008, 21:14 (Ref:2349170)

Peter Janson did this a Oran Park some, what? 30 years ago? Back in those days the penalty for a jump start was a 1 minute penalty - so he figured, lap times of 1 min plus (as they were then) - I take off at the 1 minute board all they can do is give me a minute penalty.

So he went at the one minute board and, as he guessed correctly, they applied a one minute penalty.

But, during the race he was black flagged, brought into pit lane and, whilst there told 'Oh sorry - wrong car - on your way again...' and let him go.

Up shot - pit lane stop/go PLUS a one minute penalty.

Effectiveness of going early - zero.

What would happen these days? After the paramedics had attended race control to attend the collapsed race director ('How can they do that ay MY race meeting!!!') you would probably find a 'Murphy Penalty' applied as well as 'financial sanctions' for 'bringing the sport into disrepute' (the first appl;ied by the race director, the second by the stewards who were watching from Race Control and should never be there in the first place as their job is to ADJUDICATE on charges brought by the Clerk of Course - not to hand them out - but thats a debate for another day

PVDA · 7 Dec 2008, 03:30 (Ref:2349339)

Wasn't that at Calder Park??

STEALTHY · 7 Dec 2008, 04:37 (Ref:2349356)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewsStalker

That's part of the problem - once the red light comes on you cannot move - you move, jumped start penalty.

Thought they mentioned you can move in the box, as long as you don't go over the line, as Jamie did at the start of Race 2

peckstar · 7 Dec 2008, 23:43 (Ref:2349935)

3 jumped starts this weekend, thats nearly as many as wthe whole season.

seems a bit fishy to me

dtb · 8 Dec 2008, 11:48 (Ref:2350213)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocks harder

yeah i reckon it was close looked to me he went stoped before the line and went again. the onboard from jamies car looked like he went before garth

I agree, clearly shows from the onboard that Whincup moved first, a little harsh on GT I thought.

rocks harder · 8 Dec 2008, 12:05 (Ref:2350224)

i think they were pulling a number out of hat each race and 1, 34 and 6
came out

mayhem · 9 Dec 2008, 07:06 (Ref:2350742)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peckstar

3 jumped starts this weekend, thats nearly as many as wthe whole season.

seems a bit fishy to me

A downhill startline probably doesnt help.

billy bigtime · 9 Dec 2008, 08:16 (Ref:2350764)

What a load of rubbish. He jumped the start and had to pay the price. He and his team need to work harder rather than resorting to jumping the start to gain an unfair advantage.

banksie · 9 Dec 2008, 10:14 (Ref:2350856)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peckstar

3 jumped starts this weekend, thats nearly as many as wthe whole season.

seems a bit fishy to me

5 jumped starts for the weekend. Click here.

STEALTHY · 10 Dec 2008, 06:40 (Ref:2351545)

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy bigtime

What a load of rubbish. He jumped the start and had to pay the price. He and his team need to work harder rather than resorting to jumping the start to gain an unfair advantage.

LOL Jamie got a better start than Garth. The reason for the penalty is because before that, the small movement tripped the sensor.

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