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8 Feb 2005, 17:09 (Ref:1220585) | #1 | ||
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Jerez Testing - 08/02/04
Ferrari still seem to be low-key. Sauber still seem to be struggling with their car
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8 Feb 2005, 17:11 (Ref:1220587) | #2 | ||
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http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=23459
This suggests otherwise. Sauber are at the top and bottom...Massa at the top and JV at the bottom. |
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http://www.f1racing.net/en/testresults.php?testID=191
Pos. Driver Team Time Laps 1 F. Massa Sauber 01:17:501 66 2 J. Trulli Toyota 01:17:699 58 3 R. Zonta Toyota 01:18:177 52 4 JP. Montoya McLaren 01:18:248 37 5 P. de la Rosa McLaren 01:18:554 75 6 F. Alonso Renault 01:18:676 123 7 N. Heidfeld Williams 01:18:807 99 8 M. Webber Williams 01:18:987 81 9 R. Barrichello Ferrari 01:19:220 39 10 L. Badoer Ferrari 01:19:734 60 11 L. Badoer Ferrari 01:19:724 62 12 G. Fisichella Renault 01:19:842 86 13 C. Klien Red Bull 01:19:975 51 14 A. Davidson BAR 01:20:307 18 15 T. Sato BAR 01:20:539 26 16 N. Piquet jr. BAR 01:20:855 41 17 J. Villeneuve Sauber 01:21:062 59 |
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10 L. Badoer Ferrari 01:19:734 60
11 L. Badoer Ferrari 01:19:724 62 Oh my, Ferrari are testing with clones. ... but the FIA says they can't do anything about it. There's no rule covering that. Last edited by Kirk; 8 Feb 2005 at 17:48. |
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I've 'evolved' this into a general thread on today's testing.
Key moments from the day. JPM appears with a new wing on the engine cover. Strong showing from Toyota. Renault not as dominant as previous tests. Sauber top and bottom of timesheets - apparently running different programs? Sato suffers rear wing failure and crashes as a result - uninjured. Heidfeld finishes ahead of Webber once again. Badoer alternated between a F2004 and F2004M Ferrari Piquet out with BAR. |
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Thanks ST.... some good info there that often goes unreported.
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Massa's not near the top of the timesheets on the atlas/autosport.com list:
1. Trulli Toyota (M) 1:17.694 64 2. Zonta Toyota (M) 1:18.178 51 3. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:18.240 38 4. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:18.548 77 5. Alonso Renault (M) 1:18.677 124 6. Heidfeld Williams-BMW (M) 1:18.796 97 7. Webber Williams-BMW (M) 1:18.983 83 8. Massa Sauber-Petronas (M) 1:19.142 65 9. Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:19.214 38 10. Badoer Ferrari (B) 1:19.734 60 11. Coulthard Red Bull-Cosworth (M) 1:19.844 41 12. Fisichella Renault (M) 1:19.849 91 13. Klien Red Bull-Cosworth (M) 1:19.973 49 14. Davidson BAR-Honda (M) 1:20.310 19 15. Sato BAR-Honda (M) 1:20.527 27 16. Piquet BAR-Honda (M) 1:20.852 42 17. Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas (M) 1:21.065 62 |
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I think Massa did a flying lap right at the end of the test. Atlas may have been trying to get the times out 1st. Here's a Sauber tibbit:
...explained Chief Race Engineer Jacky Eeckelaert. "By then we concentrated with both cars on further set-up work and Felipe also completed the roll-out of our second chassis....... It sounds possibly like the "hiccup" may be corrected. Last edited by Kirk; 8 Feb 2005 at 18:08. |
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Sato's BAR had a rear wing faliure!... Curtailing BAR's activities...and 'Piquet's Boy' had a shunt in one of last years cars damaging the tub!
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Anybody.....???
Whay was JV so slow.... Does anyone know??? |
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Read somehwere, that JV was not worried at the times as he was not chasing a lap time, and was trying diff set-ups. Its been some time since JV has not been chasing any lap times. Hope he delivers when it matters most
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Yeah I remember when JV wasn't satisfied unless he shatterd a lap record on the first day of testing a new car.
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So Nobody Knows !
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From what I read it sounds like Massa was testing a slightly upgraded chassis while JV was in the one with the 'fundamental flaw'.
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Some teams do low fuel runs to keep their sponsors happy...some teams never bother with that stuff...some teams do with one driver and not the other for a variety of reasons.
Remember also these times are never official...all teams set up ther own timing systems...so it depends which journalist asks whom for times...they do vary! |
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No. Massa was in the second chassis produced and did a low fuel lap at the end. Villeneuve was in the first chassis produced (identical spec) and did set up work without going for a low fuel run. |
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No-one spotted the difference between the two quotes above then?
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Ah yes - you unethically doctored a quote in an attempt at humour, it seems
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Ethics? I'll admit it wasn't that funny - certainly not as funny as thinking that there is an ethical code for leg-pulling.
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Ah, my dry humour not working in print there!
I was only being facetious... |
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Sorry to over-react there k-b - always gets me agitated when I fail to get a rise.
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