IMHO Red Bull & STR are set for lots of podiums !

[karimbo]

1) There is no tyre advantage.

2) They have the dominant engines of 2006 (Renault & Ferrari)

3) They both have the same Newey designed chassis.

It's a no brainer...

Even Ferrari and Renault will struggle against them. Hopefully Speed will be reconfirmed !

[WebberForWDC]

We would hope so. They just need to make a car that's quick... which even in F1 can be mainly a balance and traction thing amazingly, aero 0.5%'s don't for sure dominate! Then everyone in the team will appear like geniuses, even marketing and PR folk applauding their team on the podium despite having no influence on team's engineering outcome.

This WDC is appearing to get further away for MW!

[Raglanparade]

They are putting the entire top 10 on the podium this year ????

[BootsOntheSide]

Ignore, this is another "Adrian Newey is so good, even JV could win in his cars" rant.

[Julio]

Originally Posted by karimbo

It's a no brainer...

Even Ferrari and Renault will struggle against them.

I doubt it.

[daniel1985]

Yeah, it's a no brainer that the Red Bull will be about the 5 - 7th best car in the field.
top four: Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, BMW
followed by Honda,toyota, red bull fighting for fifth.

With the reliability of the cars these days it will be unlikely to see Red Bull getting more than one or two podiums for the season.
However being an aussie I hope im wrong

[FPV GTHO]

Well, on any given weekend, its never going to be that clear cut. Last year Honda were one of the pre season favourites for the title, and infact were thought to be faster than Renault, Ferrari and McLaren. They ultimately finished 4th, but even then, how many weekends last year were they far from being the 7thg and 8th fastest cars out there? And even then, how many times did we see Button and Barrichello higher than those positions? Same could be said for any of the other teams.

[Chatters]

Originally Posted by karimbo

IMHO Red Bull & STR are set for lots of podiums !

IMHO you've been smoking too much of the good stuff mate .

[Marbot]

Super Aguri will be running an updated version of Honda's 2006 chassis,which was in itself was not too bad.Where will they be? Technically there is only a question mark against Spyker.

It seems to me that at the moment the thing to do is to get the tyres working right,regardless of which chassis/engine combination you have.

[marcush.]

really the best teams will make it ,as always.Even if you had access to the Ferrari or could buy a Renault ,this would never ever make you a winner.The difference is the brains setting up the cars ,as well as the guys turning the wrenches and guys like todt making a battleship act like a jetfighter.If you got a pilot like MS or alonso it does help,of course.that does not say RB or TR or not possibly winning outfits,given a package more competitive and sound than last years.

[WebberForWDC]

Originally Posted by daniel1985

Yeah, it's a no brainer that the Red Bull will be about the 5 - 7th best car in the field.
top four: Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, BMW
followed by Honda,toyota, red bull fighting for fifth.

With the reliability of the cars these days it will be unlikely to see Red Bull getting more than one or two podiums for the season.
However being an aussie I hope im wrong

Well Williams could have been the fastest team at every race, they were the fastest at the first after all. These old fashioned rankings are more because Renault and Ferrari have their balance more so than their aero sorted, but quantum leaps in getting the balance right can be done, of course with Williams that was a just a temperature sensitivity anomaly where their car suddenly became extremely fast given the right track temp, inexplicably really.

[Dudley]

Originally Posted by karimbo

1) There is no tyre advantage.

2) They have the dominant engines of 2006 (Renault & Ferrari)

3) They both have the same Newey designed chassis.

It's a no brainer...

Even Ferrari and Renault will struggle against them. Hopefully Speed will be reconfirmed !

Apart from the fact they're missing the "Being quick" bit and the small fact there's 5 manufacturer teams you'd assume would beat them on any given weekend.

[Gt_R]

Anything can happen.

On paper, Red Bull Racing does look promising. A Newey designed car, with Renault engines, and good money in the bank to spend.

But it's never going to be that easy. Reliability is a potential problem, drivers are not exactly the WDC calibre, tyres may or may not suit the style demanded by Adrian's design, and the fact that Newey is just one individual from a team of hundreds... there's just too many factors to say "oh... we have this 3 strengths and they will get on the podium".

Potentially, RBR looks to have the ingredients neccessary to push them up a level. I'd expect them to be consistent points finishers. But to think they'd get on the podium more than a handful of times is being hopeful. Still, if they do, i'd be most glad for them as it will mean a more competitive field.

[safc_fan89]

Does no-one not think that Newey is a bit overrated? Remember, his car has not won a title for 8 years.

[Bononi]

If it happens, a new whole universe is about to begin. Forget the last 3 decades of F1 and we can nominate Bernie and Max for the nobel prize.

And this forum will cease to exist as it is now, to be invaded by hordes from the south seas...

[Knowlesy]

Originally Posted by safc_fan89

Does no-one not think that Newey is a bit overrated? Remember, his car has not won a title for 8 years.

Again, this overrated word from yourself.

I would say that Newey's status is well earned. He has dominated an era and set several trends. Of course, his cars have not won titles for a while but he has come damn close and it has often been other factors denying him the titles.

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by karimbo

1) There is no tyre advantage.

2) They have the dominant engines of 2006 (Renault & Ferrari)

3) They both have the same Newey designed chassis.

It's a no brainer...

Even Ferrari and Renault will struggle against them. Hopefully Speed will be reconfirmed !

STR will be nowhere near the top 3 places (esp with Liuzzi and Speed on board), RBR may luck into a podium, but that will be it.

[Notso Swift]

I would say that Newey's status is well earned. He has dominated an era and set several trends. Of course, his cars have not won titles for a while but he has come damn close and it has often been other factors denying him the titles.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Newry and Rory Byrne basically designed every thing that was good for 10 years. Obvioulsy Renault (Bell is it?) are doing alright as well, however I am sure if you asked Mike Gascoyne he would say that was his doing .

[Snrub]

I don't find this surprising: http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/35559/

Testing is testing, but for the most part RB has langished towards the back.

Newey != Instant Modern FW14B Reincarnation

[f1manoz]

The new Red Bull appears to have a few problems at the moment and doesn't appear to be that reliable so the talk of lots of podiums may be premature. As for STR, I don't think they'll be anyting special.