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Old 31 Mar 2016, 12:54 (Ref:3629020)   #1
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Bahrain Grand Prix 2016 Grand Prix Weekend Thread

In 2004, Sakhir marked a new chapter in Grand Prix racing when it hosted the first modern race in the Middle East, on the archipelago of Bahrain. It was an unusual sight to see Grand Prix cars in the Persian Gulf, surrounded by sand.

The track is tough on brakes, with some big stops at the end of the various long straights. One of the more interesting sections is Turns 9 and 10, two consecutive left-handers, the first of which involves braking on a curve. Many drivers steam in there too quickly and lock a wheel. Turn 11, a long left-hander also potentially creates a few different line interpretations.

In the season opener two weeks ago, the new rule which saw Pirelli bringing three tyre compounds each weekend appears to have opened up some more variation in strategies. On a circuit where Ferrari are expected to be even closer to Mercedes than in Melbourne, it will be good to see if this plays out as a decisive factor. The Ferrari pair have opted for three sets of mediums, four softs and six supersofts, while Hamilton and Rosberg will be using just a set of mediums each, six sets of softs and six sets of supersofts. Another thing to bear in mind is that due to the 18:00 start time, the track temperature will keep dropping as the race goes on.

After Vettel's astonishing launch off the line in Australia and Mercedes's tardy starts, the Brackley-based team will be under the radar on that front too. No amount of qualifying pace can protect them from such a dodgy beginning to the Grand Prix. Ferrari could really capitalise here if they get ahead.

And speaking of qualifying, it has been decided that the so-far unpopular format introduced in Round 1 will at least be retained for Bahrain, with several minutes of running and then a point in each session at which drivers will be eliminated every 90 seconds for the remainder of the time. Perhaps we will see this show some potential and the sense of climax some thought it lacked in the opening round.

Today's big news is that Fernando Alonso will not take part in Bahrain after it was a fractured rib has been discovered. The precautionary move to rest the Spaniard means that Belgium's star and reigning GP2 champion Stoffel Vandoorne making his Grand Prix debut for McLaren.

In 2014, Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg memorably duelled it out in a tense and fraught battle which lit up the Grand Prix and their rivalry. With first blood to Nico in Melbourne, will we see a tougher Nico with his elbows out here too?

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Constructor's Championship so far: http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...standings.html

Drivers' Championship so far: http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...standings.html

Tyre Choices: https://www.formula1.com/content/fom...r-bahrain.html

Circuit length: 5.412km
Number of laps: 57
Race distance: 308.238km
First World Championship*Grand*Prix: 2004

Dry weather tyre compounds: Medium, Soft and Supersoft
DRS Detection Zone 1: Between Turns 9 and 10
DRS Activation Zone 1: On straight between Turns 10 and 11
DRS Detection Zone 2: At end of straight just before Turn 14
DRS Activation Zone 2: On start-finish straight
Speed trap: At end of start-finish straight
Lap Record: 1:31.447 – Pedro de la Rosa – McLaren-Mercedes (2005)

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Old 31 Mar 2016, 13:12 (Ref:3629026)   #2
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Thank you! Missed your Australian intro!
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Old 31 Mar 2016, 13:33 (Ref:3629029)   #3
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Thank you! I missed doing it. I started putting together some research for it but I'm currently in a busy period. Managed to put together this fairly bare Bahrain one, with not much detail, but fortunately there is not so much history to talk about yet with this one.
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Old 31 Mar 2016, 13:37 (Ref:3629030)   #4
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I reckon Alonso for the win!
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Old 31 Mar 2016, 15:01 (Ref:3629050)   #5
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Could potentially be a career-altering weekend for Button. I really rate Vandoorne and think he could really turn heads this weekend
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thanks for the intro BR for me i have always liked the desert backdrop so wish it was still held during the daylight and the heat that comes with it. a unique challenge that is somewhat diminished by moving to the evening start time.

shame Alonso wont be here as he has had some memorable battles here over the years.

the 2004 battle with Webber where he chased the ozzie down, flipped him off and ultimately made a pass after he forced Webber into a mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mRAjFGr4Q

in 2005 Schumi got a little aggressive coming out of the pits but Alonso was fearless and held his ground. it wasent the last time Alonso got the better of Schumi in 2005. cant find any good video of it though.

in 2006 is one of my favorite shots/images from here with Massa spinning out in front of Alonso who reacted beautifully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBfm21Elfk

2010 was surely the highlight though winning after a few winless seasons but more importantly (to the Tifosi anyways) winning his first race for Ferrari in his first race for Ferrari. for the rest of the non Tifosi it was the first of several races where Alonso was faster then Massa.
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Old 31 Mar 2016, 18:35 (Ref:3629094)   #7
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Could potentially be a career-altering weekend for Button. I really rate Vandoorne and think he could really turn heads this weekend
Or it could make Jenson really step up to the mark. Can't help but feel that Alonso hasn't really pushed him yet.

Anyway, I've grown to like this race over the years. You do get some good scraps from turn 1 all the way up to turn 5/6.

Is anyone going to tune in for qualifying?
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Old 31 Mar 2016, 20:24 (Ref:3629120)   #8
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canamman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridcanamman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridcanamman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Last year:
Alonso made it to Q2 with a best lap of 1:35.039
Finished the race in 11th place - O points.

Good luck to Vandoorne. Nice opportunity.
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Hard to believe the first F1 event at this track was 12 years ago
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Great intro.

Usually a rather dull affair, though there was that cracker of a race two years ago. I would like to see something like that again, though I expect we will be in for more of the same. I hope I'm proven wrong.

I missed watching the new Qualifying format at Melbourne and though it's come in for a lot of criticism, at least I'll be able to judge for myself.

Alonso's out, recovering from chest injuries, http://www.autosport.com/news/report...lonso-decision, so a speedy recovery in time for China.
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Vandoorne was about seven tenths from Button in FP2. Probably to be expected. I would like to know what their relative fuel loads were.

Rosberg quicker than Hamilton in both sessions. This won't be conclusive demonstration that he can have it over Hamilton until qualifying as I think Hamilton has often pulled something out of the bag in Q3 when Rosberg has led the FP sessions.
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As with investments, past performance is not necessarily an indication of future performance, but it is nice to see Button 1st fastest of the rest of the field after the dominant, again, Mercedes. It would be good if he is able to carry that through to qualifying tomorrow. Did he not go well in Bahrain last year as well?
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Yes, Button had electrical issues that kept him out of Quali
as well as the race in 2015.
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As with investments, past performance is not necessarily an indication of future performance, but it is nice to see Button 1st fastest of the rest of the field after the dominant, again, Mercedes. It would be good if he is able to carry that through to qualifying tomorrow. Did he not go well in Bahrain last year as well?
He didn't even start.
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The way the BBC News app is reading is that we're still eliminating cars that are parked in garages?
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Having finally watched the new Qualifying format in action, I think once a driver has started the lap they should be allowed to finish. I don't have a problem with the knocked out procedure in Q1 and 2 but in Q3 keep the 2015 format. Otherwise, a Mercedes front row followed by the Ferraris, so no change there.
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I'm glad I can't watch it. I tried to listen to r5 live. Made no sense. One more nail in the coffin.
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the natural order seems to have been restored; he's a bit good that Hammy isn't he!
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Todt echoing Bernie, in that interview, saying the drivers/teams need to learn the new Qualifying format. I agree with Mark Webber, Todt looked under pressure.
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Autosport are reporting that Todt and Charlie Whiting had requested that Pirelli supply the teams with yet another set of the ultra or super soft tyres for qualifying after the fiasco in Melbourne, but Pirelli couldn't produce them in time for Bahrain.

They then claim that some teams stayed in the garages to preserve tyres for tomorrow's race, which is what happened before they introduced the extra set for Q3. It would seem as though the move to 3 compounds per weekend has now brought about the situation that the teams appear to want the extra sticky tyres for the start of the race, which then compromises the number of runs that they can do during qualifying.

It seems to be a case of no steps forward, but a giant leap backwards.
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the natural order seems to have been restored; he's a bit good that Hammy isn't he!
he really did make up for his earlier Q3 mistake with a wonderfully fast lap....but Nico was right there with a 0.077s difference.

good job from Ricciardo for getting ahead of the Williams as well.

should be a fun start tomorrow!
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But there were times when nobody bothered to run.
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But there were times when nobody bothered to run.
Ultimately it makes little difference. What it does do is exposure the inherent problem we've had for some time now. People don't run because they want to save tyres. Although a few only got one run in when they may have had chance to do a couple. Having said that the Hulk had another go with it.

The final bit was the same as it would have been, top four going for it. However the rules meant it happened three or four minutes earlier.

It's more rubbish than last year, but not by a lot. Last year was already rubbish.

Let's ditch it and just have fastest lap at any practice and ditch the restriction on tyres. Fair, sporting, but the fans won't like it as it isn't a good show.
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Simple...sorta like days of old.

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What sort of scheming is Todt up to? There must be something. Qually in Australia was so awful that the teams couldn't prevent themselves from agreeing with each other (previously unheard of) that Bahrain should revert to 2015 rules. A look at any television channel, any motorsport magazine and any motorsport forum would tell him that the customers wanted 2015 rules. So he engineers a vote that doesn't include that option!

There was really nothing at all wrong with 2015 qually rules so they were always trying to mend something that wasn't broken.

Bahrain was marginally better than Australia. Manor seemed to understand how to respond to being on the bubble, and got Wehrlein up to a superb (for them) position as a result. Red Bull and Force India clearly haven't understood it at all. The end of Q3 was enlivened only because Hamilton got it wrong on his first run so was out-of-position. He needed a second run to recover his expected position and the other three had to go again to defend. And even then we had 3 1/2 minutes of nothingness at the end.

Todt and Ecclestone really are testing my tolerance to the limit.
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