De Cadenet Lolas

Nordic · 18 Aug 2004, 08:19 (Ref:1070226)

How many where built and how much was 'Lola'390

Le Mans 78 had 3 entered which tells at least 3 where built, The cars seemed to have a long shelf life, so where the existing cars revised or new ones built.

allenbrown · 18 Aug 2004, 12:35 (Ref:1070415)

I know one of them - called LM4 - appeared in Can-Am very briefly in (about) 1979.

So that suggests there were four.

Allen

Cameron Winton · 18 Aug 2004, 13:18 (Ref:1070465)

I am ashamed to admit this as it shows up how much rubbish is retained by my memory. I can remember an article in Motor or Autocar from early 77 about the De Cadenet being taken into a wind tunnel and descibing a bunch of detail modifications to the bodywork to reduce drag/increase top speed on the Mulsanne straight. I believe it was around this time they started being called De Cadenets and not Lolas. They ran with the mods at Le Mans in 77 and I vaguely remember it may have all been to do with the magazine sponsoring the car - Did they pay for the wind tunnel time?
Don't have a copy of the magazine anymore.

Jeremy Jackson · 18 Aug 2004, 14:27 (Ref:1070521)

We touched on this briefly in the T280 thread (around page 4-ish!)

Probably only 2 true T380s, the rest being de Cadenet, on which the LM4 which Allen mentioned is one.

HU2 (the 1001st Lola bult I think!) went to Jolly Club in 75, and they used in through to 77 at least.

Not sure whether the LM# is proper notation, in addition the first Ecosse C2 car was based on a chopped de Cadenet.

Anyway,

de Cadenet's 75-76 car went to Simon Phillips / Dorset Racing, and maybe to Francy Jerancic, who had a large accident in 1989 Interserie. This iwas often quoted as the basis for the original Group C ADA, but that car appears to be actually based on a unraced (maybe) T29x Lola .

77 car went to John Cooper, raced as the SG Lola. Not sure the fate of this.

the 78 car (Allen's LM4) retained / raced through to 81 (81 LM as the Belga liveried car)

In this notation, LM-1 is the original Duckhams Special.

Any corrections gratefully received...

mickj · 19 Aug 2004, 06:04 (Ref:1071160)

This proberly wont help but here goes.
In 2001 there was 1 listed as a Lola De Cadenet T380 (Dorset Racing Colours)in the Rosso Bianco Collection, Aschaffenberg Germany. I have looked at my photo but cannot make out all, what is written on the plaque int front of car.

Nordic · 19 Aug 2004, 08:38 (Ref:1071267)

Rosso

Thanks for that.

So Lola built the first 2 cars for De Cadenet, he then copied the design and built 2 more.

I would love to go to Rosso Collection.

gfm · 19 Aug 2004, 19:14 (Ref:1071847)

I can't send a picture (anymore, why not?) but I drove the Cooper/Lovett Lola in 79 at Le Mans.
Lovely car for that race, but lack of testing meant we were a bit unsorted. retired around 5 in the morning with shorting electrics and no clutch from about 9.
Sports car DFV in it. Cooper got it up to 8th early on. Beautiful.

Andrew Kitson · 19 Aug 2004, 19:46 (Ref:1071877)

John, hi. re picture attachments, see this message:
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...94#post1071794

mickj · 20 Aug 2004, 03:34 (Ref:1072230)

Nordic
Thats the car. I hope you get to visit Rosso Bianco, Its sport car heaven. The only F1 car was Graham Hill's Hill in Embassy colours.

coyotes · 21 Aug 2004, 21:22 (Ref:1073904)

A de Cadenet from 1977 was in the Le Mans Classic last july. Its chassis number was "GLC 913". Don't ask us about what it means...

Jeremy Jackson · 21 Aug 2004, 22:48 (Ref:1073967)

I must admit I've seen a reference to that chassis somewhere before, but can't for tthe life of me remeber where. The only thing GLC means to me is Greater London Council... Coyotes, was this the Belga-liveried #20 car that raced in the Classic?

Either Autosport or Motor Sport (think it was the latter) referred to the chassis of the de cadenet that became the Ecoose as "ADC/78/1". This notation also appears in "Time and two Seats".

gfm · 22 Aug 2004, 10:58 (Ref:1074250)

GLC - Gordon (Murry who design updates made it the narrow car it was)
L - Lola (basis car)
de Cadenet - (instigated the programme)

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No ...

coyotes · 22 Aug 2004, 11:10 (Ref:1074260)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy Jackson
Coyotes, was this the Belga-liveried #20 car that raced in the Classic?

Yes, this is the car. We haven't seen the chassis plate but trusted the mechanics. The car never ran Le Mans, as a De Cadenet, according to them.

driftwood · 25 Aug 2004, 23:07 (Ref:1077496)

Nordic said "I would love to go to Rosso Collection."
u get the comfy car for the long 6-7 hr drive & i will book the ferry!

re 380/390 cars
seen ad for car for sale via Chris fox will check what model it is

PRF · 22 Mar 2005, 09:11 (Ref:1258678)

There's a French guy that has documented all Lola Sportscars. Can't remember the url. Will post tonight.

PRF

PS - He's also featured De Cadetnet's

gttouring · 29 Jan 2007, 20:45 (Ref:1828922)

can someone give me a history of De Cadenet?
(the same Alain de Cadenet from Speed Channel?)

driftwood · 29 Jan 2007, 22:07 (Ref:1829019)

Thats the guy!!!

gfm · 30 Jan 2007, 07:04 (Ref:1829194)

Motor Sport last issue. Big profile.

PRF · 22 Mar 2005, 09:13 (Ref:1258679)

Here it is:

http://www.geocities.com/lolahistory

Barry Boor · 23 Mar 2005, 08:00 (Ref:1259515)

Although I cannot say for sure which year it happened, I am fairly certain that one of the de Cadenet cars that ran at Le Mans used the DFV that had, in 1972, powered the Connew F.1 car.

Peter Connew was told by McLaren, from whom the engine was borrowed, that he could sell it on and it was to Alain de Cadenet that it went.

From there, naturally, it found its way into a Le Mans car.

Again, without concrete evidence, I believe it now resides connected to an F.1 car at Donington.

driftwood · 22 Mar 2005, 09:38 (Ref:1258697)

there is a french book on sports cars out featured in autosport this week
£40 in french but many good colour pics mostly on 2 litre sports cars and lists all race entries

Super Tourer · 22 Mar 2005, 16:24 (Ref:1258967)

Which was the car he raced in the TV documentary comparing his and Guy Edwards Le Mans race in the early 80's? (82?)

De Cadenet shared the car with the Martin brothers (IIRC) in Belga livery. Guy Edwards shared his car (was it a Lola) with De Villota and a Spanish driver.

edit - looking at the list it looks like the 1981 Le Mans was featured in the film

Super Tourer · 22 Mar 2005, 16:34 (Ref:1258974)

After a bit of digging I found an answer to my own question about GE!

http://www.teamdan.com/archive/wsc/1981/81lemans.html

Emilio de Villota (E)/Guy Edwards (GB)/Juan Fernandez (E) Lola T600 Ford HU03 Grid Team Lola

Some great names in those results!

driftwood · 22 Mar 2005, 16:52 (Ref:1258987)

FYI
emilio de vilotta is spanish
do u mean him as the spanish driver or another spaniard

Super Tourer · 22 Mar 2005, 18:51 (Ref:1259078)

In addition - it was Fernandez I was missing - he brought money from Danone for the drive (IIRC).

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