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Old 14 Dec 2005, 14:50 (Ref:1483953)   #1
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Michelin to leave F1

I've just heard that Michelin have announced their intention to leave F1 at the end of the 2006 season citing a single tyre supplier as the reason.

I was just curious as to what people thought about this. Do you think that having a single supplier will be a good thing or bad thing for the sport ?

Personally I like to see competition, I like to see all contributors working hard for dominance and that a single supplier can lead to complacence to a degree plus whats the value of winning a World Championship if you are the only entrant ?!?!
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 14:50 (Ref:1483954)   #2
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Michelin to pull out at end of '06

ITV: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34712

I kind of saw this coming, but not before 2008...
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 15:18 (Ref:1483969)   #3
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For once I believe the reason given for leaving the sport. I don't see the point investing zillions of dollars when you are the sole provider (i.e. no competition). The Indy fiasco surely did not help but I don't think it was the cause of "Bibendum's" (whatever is the name of Michelin's sexy mascot) announced departure.
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 15:18 (Ref:1483967)   #4
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I was just about to post the same thing.... But I see that we already have two threads (now merged). BStone will be the single tyre supplier - this, in my opinion, is a good thing. I suspect that the bad publicity from Indy also had a hand in their decision.
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 15:27 (Ref:1483975)   #5
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I don't think a single tyre supplier is good for F1. It will make the aerodynamics even more important.
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 15:35 (Ref:1483981)   #6
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michelin desire competition, always have. They do not like to be the sole supplier
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 15:45 (Ref:1483988)   #7
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We all knew this was coming, but that's a lot quicker than I expected. I really appreciated the tyre wars (Indy aside) and this will likely give the 2006 Bridgestone runners an advantage in 2007.

Sad day because Michelin truly belongs in F1.
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 15:57 (Ref:1483999)   #8
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Maybe we should have a poll on this to see how people feel ?
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Old 14 Dec 2005, 15:58 (Ref:1484001)   #9
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This move certainly leaves some teams like Renault and Mclaren nervous. They are faced with a year to make the switch, and will have no data for which to design their next season's car with. Toyota and Williams must be pretty glad to have made the switch. Red Bull made a wrong call in not aligning with Bridgestone earlier and this meant that a Newey car in 2007 cannot be fully utlized unfortunately.

I welcomed tire wars, provided that the tyres do not contribute as the "definite" decider as we have seen in recent years, especially last season. It is amusing to see tyre companies fighting it out and pushing the rules/limits (and sometimes, getting dramatically wrong - ouch not nice to watch) but the situation F1 face is getting tedious.

With a sole supplier (but that doesn't mean sole-specification), we will still see interesting decision made by various teams and somebody getting it wrong...but the degree of difference would unlikely be as marked. Tyre-testings which constitute majority of track test will be hugely reduced.

Michelin has opted to leave. No surprise, and i believe that it's a choice they want to make hoping that they can carry on the momentum, win next season and quit on a high. Being in F1 for multi-seasons, only with one title isn't exactly a worthwhile investment or a superb result for Michelin who is used to winning, and to rub salt to wound, the Indy incident really cost them much in terms of bad publicity and compensation.

A sad situation to leave F1. 2007 is earlier than thought, and they'd be missed. But F1 won't be worse off with this simplification of an overly complex sports.
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I suspect that when Bridgestone is the only manufacturer they will be far more interested in tire wear than performance. As such I don't think the Michelin teams will be that adversely effected.
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It would cut cost drastically for Bridgestone. There's no need for aggressive tyres developement, but just gradual improvements. In fact, tyres would surely lose some grip in exchange for greater durability.

But still, it leaves FIA and BS the scope to design 2 different compounds artificially to provide some degree of variance between teams.
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It would cut cost drastically for Bridgestone. There's no need for aggressive tyres developement, but just gradual improvements. In fact, tyres would surely lose some grip in exchange for greater durability.
If teams save money on the tyres, they will spend it on an other area.
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is bridgestone going to be the sole tire provider then?

i would like to see that option open to the lowest bidder. not just in regards to keeping costs low but also for the potential that a new company will come in and every team start on equal footing.
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This was pretty much as expected. I think Michelin were very unhappy to see tire changes back in F1 after spending the time, money and effort in achieving a very competitive tire that would last a grand prix distance. It was quite the contradiction in thinking to go back to tire changes.

But Formula 1's loss is other's gain. Michelin will still be at Le Mans!
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My suspicous side wonders if some teams had some inside info of this eventuality (and how quickly it will transpire) and opted to go Bridgestone immediately. I know I was surprised to see Toyota and Williams go that route, especially after Bridgestone's poor showing with Ferrari this year. Mclaren and Sauber will not be too pleased, especially Sauber who seem to be on a tyre brand roller coaster.
But overall, I like the 1 tyre supplier format.
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Don't blame the FIA,this is what the teams have wanted for some time.I for one will be glad to see a single tyre supplier.No more "this is definitely a Michelin track"-"Bridgestone are struggling" from the commentary.Also official FIA reply here.
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I'm a little suspicous because Bridgestone have had such close links with Ferrari over the past few years, but I assume if the FIA want one tyre supplier then they will oversee what tyres are allowed in F1 from '07 and hopefully no one team will be favoured.
With only a soft and a harder slick, a inter and a full wet there should be no need for endless days of tyre testing during the season and with tyre varible out of the way it will be down to the teams producing a winning car and even *shock horror* the drivers skill.
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I'm a little suspicous because Bridgestone have had such close links with Ferrari over the past few years.
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"...but, above all, it will avoid a repetition of the problem which arose at the 2005 US Grand Prix." from FIA press release.

was there any need to include this parting shot at michelin?
a) its seems redundant
b) its a little mean
c) what happens when/if the single tire manu gets it wrong and the whole race gets called off. who do you blame then.

damn politickin'!
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True Monster - what type of tyres are in use is probably more significant to the spectacle than how many companies make them and who those companies are. The advantage of a single-tyre supplier is that no team will have their hard work scuppered by being on the wrong tyres, the championship can't be fiddled by the FIA or certain teams quite as easily, and the spectators are much more sure that the right team wins. I think it's a good move, and Michelin are probably right, that the costs of supplying those tyres outweigh the marketing and promotional kudos.
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The advantage of a single-tyre supplier is that no team will have their hard work scuppered by being on the wrong tyres
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If a team's hard work will be scuppered by the tyre supplier, well, that's motor racing.

Some team's hard work has also been scuppered by using the wrong engine. So, let's introduce a single-engine supplier as well?
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If a team's hard work will be scuppered by the tyre supplier, well, that's motor racing.

Some team's hard work has also been scuppered by using the wrong engine. So, let's introduce a single-engine supplier as well?
The engine and chassis are major components for which there is a constructors championship,this is not the case with tyres.
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The engine and chassis are major components for which there is a constructors championship,this is not the case with tyres.
I disagree. The constructors championship had been introduced in 1958 for the teams, not for the engine manufactor. The engine manufactor won't get any official regards from the FIA.
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