[Team] Haas: Gene Haas of NASCAR attempting to start F1 team

[FstrthnU]

http://www.racer.com/nascars-gene-ha...rticle/329703/

Yet another attempt at an American F1 team. Should we be hopefull or dismissive?

[Tucky]

Lotus have money problems, could his be a solution for them.....

[ptclaus98]

Dismissive.

[Teretonga]

If they plan to use Dallara to kick it off.... then I cant see it happening. If they bought Lotus / Enstone that would make a difference....

[Nick Woodbury]

Oooff, this is very much out of the blue.

I think I will approach it as a "I will believe it when I see it on track" situation.

[Richard C]

I wish them the best, I would love to see a proper US based team for a number of reasons. As mentioned above, swooping in and buying the Enstone Team would be the logical thing to do, but I doubt that fits with the goals of those behind the effort.

Richard

[canamman]

Well he could use the previous attempt" of how not" to start a US F1 team as lessons learned. I wish him well. What do you think, the whole Stewart Haas 4 car team budget times 5 to field 2 F1 cars and team? Or times 10?

[mountainstar]

It would make the most sense to buy the bust Lotus team for a $1 and do that.

[ensign14]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

I wish them the best, I would love to see a proper US based team for a number of reasons. As mentioned above, swooping in and buying the Enstone Team would be the logical thing to do, but I doubt that fits with the goals of those behind the effort.

Richard

I don't think there's been a proper US-based team since Duesenberg. Even Dan Gurney had a British base. Haas would be better taking American staff to Motorsport Valley rather than vice versa.

[P38 in workshop]

Originally Posted by ensign14

I don't think there's been a proper US-based team since Duesenberg. Even Dan Gurney had a British base. Haas would be better taking American staff to Motorsport Valley rather than vice versa.

It may be that given current news stories about the financial health of some teams and the reluctance of some owners to throw good money after bad that a selection of European premises will become available before too long.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by ensign14

I don't think there's been a proper US-based team since Duesenberg. Even Dan Gurney had a British base. Haas would be better taking American staff to Motorsport Valley rather than vice versa.

Roger Penske based his F1 team over here and continued to have his cars designed and built in Poole, Dorset during the CART era.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Nick Woodbury

Oooff, this is very much out of the blue.

I think I will approach it as a "I will believe it when I see it on track" situation.

[F1Pete]

If the Lotus team is purchased then that still leaves vacant team spots available and doesn't solve filling up the grid.

[chunterer]

It's not as simple as just buying Lotus I think the operation and premises might well belong to different companies. That may be partly due to Lopez complicating things and Proton wanting to maintain something.

[GTRMagic]

A CNC-milled toaster? Woohoo

[Paradise City]

I hope he's heading a consortium. I get slightly horrified when one single person invests what is an atrocious amount of money into this sport. Folly, surely.

[wolfhound]

It has been suggested that this proposed new F1 team and the possible deal to purchase the Nurburgring as diversionary tactics to the real story i.e. what is happening to Bernie.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2014/...n-the-f1-pond/

I could be wrong but when you look at the timing there is some logic to it.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

It has been suggested that this proposed new F1 team and the possible deal to purchase the Nurburgring as diversionary tactics to the real story i.e. what is happening to Bernie.

http://wordpress.com/2014/01/16/ripples-on-the-f1-pond/

I could be wrong but when you look at the timing there is some logic to it.

And why was it possible for Ron to become CEO of McLaren on the day Bernie stepped down.
And also it was clear that the crash test fail is a distraction.
And Zara having that baby.


The evidence is circumstantial. We just cannot tell.

[zork]

Hass Honda???? (Dallara built Hondas test car years back!!)

[James C.]

Originally Posted by zork

Hass Honda???? (Dallara built Hondas test car years back!!)

The articles I read speak about Ferrari as engine supplier. Besides, McLaren has an exclusive deal with Honda, at least for 2015.

[IceMan_PJN]

I'd like to see an American team, largely because I hoped it would build a little bit more American interest in F1, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. According to Forbes, Stewart-Haas has a value of $108 million and profit of $7.2 million. I haven't read any cost figures for F1 in recent months, but I'm wanting to say I once read that top teams spend hundreds of millions per team in a single season. Granted, I'm sure bottom teams spend quite a bit less, but I'm still not sure that Haas can come up with enough capital to be remotely competitive.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by IceMan_PJN

I'd like to see an American team, largely because I hoped it would build a little bit more American interest in F1, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. According to Forbes, Stewart-Haas has a value of $108 million and profit of $7.2 million. I haven't read any cost figures for F1 in recent months, but I'm wanting to say I once read that top teams spend hundreds of millions per team in a single season. Granted, I'm sure bottom teams spend quite a bit less, but I'm still not sure that Haas can come up with enough capital to be remotely competitive.

The NASCAR team likely isnt where the money is... try Haas Automation Inc for what is reported to be the source of Mr Haas' wealth.

[kartincolin]

Considering all that`s gone before, and the fact that this appears to have manifested itself from nowhere, I will remain sceptical until something significant actually materializes. It would be a much needed boost for the sport though.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The NASCAR team likely isnt where the money is... try Haas Automation Inc for what is reported to be the source of Mr Haas' wealth.

Well, I hope he doesn't use his own money! I think if I was wealth enough to own a F1 team, I would still be looking for someone else to foot the bill. Or at least I wouldn't use my money unless I felt it was going to be profitable. Which is not an easy thing to do in racing. However, it might show that he is a capable business man and knows how to run large organizations that have large budgets.

Richard

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

Well, I hope he doesn't use his own money! I think if I was wealth enough to own a F1 team, I would still be looking for someone else to foot the bill. Or at least I wouldn't use my money unless I felt it was going to be profitable. Which is not an easy thing to do in racing. However, it might show that he is a capable business man and knows how to run large organizations that have large budgets.

Richard

The NASCAR team only did any good on the race track and in the accountant's book balancing when Mr Stewart brought his sponsors, engineers, mechanics and influence to the table

There is a story around from Mr Stewart 's 2011 championship win, where he managed to operate the team that season without costing Mr Haas any money, while in contrast, in prior years, Mr Haas had to pay to run the season

Should we be thinking 'Tony Stewart To F1'??