[Official] French Grand Prix 2018: Grand Prix Weekend Thread

[Born Racer]

The return of the France to Formula 1 sees the return of the original Grand Prix. It was organised by the Automobile Club de France and held on 26th and 27th June 1906 on a 103.18-kilometre layout that went towards the outskirts of Le Mans and near several villages and towns. There were ten French manufacturers, two from Italy (including FIAT) and one from Germany (Mercedes). Cars started at ninety-second intervals and the winning car was a Renault, driven by Hunagarian Ferenc Szisz in 12 hours 14 minutes. Regulations included a maximum weight limit and fuel consumption of 30 litres per 100 kilometres.

The Grand Prix took place at Dieppe the following year and in 1908, at which point the regulations had both a minimum weight and a maximum cylinder bore, but no fuel consumption limit. After a three-year hiatus, the race returned at Dieppe in 1912, with Coupe de l’Auto cars permitted alongside Grand Prix cars. The Coupe cars had 3 litre engines, while the Grand Prix cars were limited only by a minimum width of 1750mm. Georges Boillot won the 1539.778 km race by thirteen minutes in his Peugeot.

The 1913 race was held on a public road circuit in Amiens, moving to Lyon in 1914. Mercedes took the first three spots. Grand Prix racing resumed after World War 1 in 1921 on the Circuit de a Sarthe of Le Mans. The 517.80-kilometre race took a little over four hours to complete by the winner, American Jimmy Murphy in his Duesenberg. Winning driver of te 1907 Dieppe race, Felice Nazzarro, won in 1922 in Strasbourg in a Fiat. Henry Segrave won in his Sunbeam at Tours in 1923 and Giuseppe Campari in an Alfa Romeo in 1924 at Lyon. The Grand Prix then moved over subsequent years from circuits at Montlhéry, Miramas and Saint-Gaudens, before going back to Le Mans and then to Pau, although not on the street track used in more modern eras. After two years at Montlhéry again, the 1932 French Grand Prix took place at Reims and formed part of the European Championship and the remaining races before World War 2 were held at these two venues.

In 1947, the French Grand Prix resumed at in Lyon, before moving to Reims. The first Formula 1 World Championship French Grand Prix in 1950 was won by Juan Manuel Fangio in an Alfa Romeo. The following year saw one of three occasions where there was more than one winning driver, due to shared cars. Fangio and Luigi Fagioli won for Alfa Romeo. After a misfire in Fangio’s own car, Fagioli swapped cars with him during his pit stop. He was angry at having to change, finishing down in 11th in Fangio’s car, and he quit the sport. Alberto Ascari also took over José Froilán Gonzalez’s Ferrari and they jointly shared second place.

The race moved to Rouen-les-Essarts in 1952 and the rest of the races until 1964 were held either here or at Reims. 1953 saw an excellent battle between Fangio and Mike Hawthorn for the lead, the Briton prevailing. 1955 was cancelled due to the Le Mans tragedy. It was Hawthorn who, about to lap Fangio in the Argentinian’s last race, slowed down to let him cross the line first and be able to complete his final lap. After the race moved to Clermont-Ferrand, the short Bugatti Circuit at Le Mans was used in 1967, but only lasted a year. Rouen held the event for the last time in 1968 and the race returned to Clermont-Ferrand, with the French Grand Prix moving to Paul Ricard, near Marseilles, for the first time in 1971. After a race at Clermont-Ferrand the following year, the French Grand Prix alternated between Paul Ricard and Dijon-Prenois until 1985, after which point a shortened Paul Ricard circuit was used until 1990.

It was at Dijon in 1979 that René Arnoux and Gilles Villeneuve banged wheels in their late battle for second place. It was a Ferrari sandwich, with the 1.6 litre turbocharged Renaults of Jean-Pierre Jabouille and Arnoux taking 1st and 3rd place, the first victoy in Formula 1 for a turbocharged engine. The use of the short version of Paul Ricard followed Elio de Angelis’s fatal testing accident a few months earlier at the fast Verriere bends, the last death of a driver in Formula 1 until the San Marino Grand Prix 1994.

In 1990, the Adrian Newey-designed Leyton House cars of Ivan Capelli and Mauricio Gugelmin amazed by running first and second for the majority of the race. After Gugelmin was passed by Alain Prost, his engine expired after 58 laps, while Capelli had engine difficulties too and was overtaken by Prost on Lap 77 of 80. Capelli held on to finish second.

In 1991, the race moved to Magny-Cours. Although not universally popular as a venue, in part perhaps unfairly attributed to its remote location, it didn’t always produce bad races. In 1999, the top three in qualifying after a wet session was Rubens Barrichello in the Stewart, Jean Alesi in the Sauber and Olivier Panis in the Prost. Heinz-Harald Frentzen ended the race on top in the Jordan Mugen-Honda. The race started dry before it rained heavily and involved Mika Hakkinen spinning, Michael Schumacher dropping back due to an electrical problem, Hakkinen passing Frentzen and the Jordan driver ultimately coming out on top after Hakkinen had to pit for fuel.

The last race until the French Grand Prix was revived this year saw Felipe Massa win after an exhaust pipe on team-mate Kimi Raikkonen’s Ferrari broke, causing him to lose power. This would be the first time the Brazilian would lead the world championship in his career. The Finn held on to second, while Jarno Trulli completed the podium in third for Toyota.

This year, the return to Paul Ricard sees a revised circuit from its previous incarnation. Long straights are punctuated by some short mid and high-speed corners. So far, Mercedes are coming out on top in Friday practice, with their engine update probably helping, but Ferrari don’t generally show their hand on Fridays and Red Bull appear to be somewhere in the reckoning. Haas look to have the fourth-best car, but we have seen the young team struggle with putting together complete race weekends this year.

Circuit length: 5.842km
Number of laps: 53
Race distance: 309.69km
First French Grand Prix: 1906
First World Championship French Grand Prix: 1950
First Grand Prix at this circuit: 1971
First Grand Prix on this configuration: 2018
Dry weather tyre compounds: Soft, Supersoft and Ultrasoft
Lap Record: NA

[BertMk2]

Paul Ricard - my poor eyes! A truly horrific venue visually - what's going on with all the ridiculous stripy paint?

[Mike Harte]

Bernie bought a job lot on the cheap!

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

Bernie bought a job lot on the cheap!

Slavika Ecclestone owns Ricard now..... Bernie gave it to her in the divorce settlement!

[S griffin]

Third circuit to return after a long layoff this decade, following the Red Bull Ring and Mexico City. Be nice to be back, hopefully we can have a close race

[Greem]

Utterly horrendous traffic on the way in, according to more than one account on Twitter. Fake Charlie Whiting probably has the best thread, though.

4hr from Marseille and they're not in the circuit yet.

[chillibowl]

Renault race poster



Ferrari race poster

[bjohnsonsmith]

I'm pleased to see the French GP is finally back on the calendar, after a 10 year hiatus. Should never have been allowed to happen. Just hope we have a good race.

[fieldodreams79]

Not following F1 closely until the formation laps, I saw this and immediately thought of Magny Cours...

*sigh*

[E.B]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

Renault race poster

Poster of 2 Renaults lost on the Ricard runoff areas?

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by E.B

Poster of 2 Renaults lost on the Ricard runoff areas?

nice one!

[F1Guy]

Originally Posted by Greem

Utterly horrendous traffic on the way in, according to more than one account on Twitter.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...ulous-1047272/

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...ulous-1047272/

From the article....

Force India COO Otmar Szafnauer said...

"It took us two hours to go 10 miles," he said. "It was ridiculous."

Sounds like Atlanta GA.

Also, looks like espn roku app won't show this one live....

[Purist]

We'll just have to see.

I'm not as bothered by the tightened version of Verrerie, but I kind of fail to see the point of racing at Paul Ricard if you're not going to use the full, uninterrupted Mistral.

I'm wondering if the front straight will be long enough to make an overtake happen; I might add, this is made harder by the fact that Pont is slower and tighter than it used to be, so the cars will spread out more heading past the pits.

As far as I can tell, this is the second-longest circuit on this year's F1 calendar at 3.782 miles (baseline of 3.574 miles, plus the tightest variant of Verrerie, and then that particular iteration of the Mistral Chicane).

If anyone needs a break from the paved run-offs of Le Castellet, just look up practice from Road America on the IndyCar YouTube channel.

[TrapezeArtist]

Great to see the French Grand Prix back on the calendar. It is the original, after all.

But was an aesthetic disaster that circuit is. Whoever thought painting stripes all over the place was a good idea? It reminds me of the dazzle camouflage on WW1 battleships.

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

Great to see the French Grand Prix back on the calendar. It is the original, after all.

But was an aesthetic disaster that circuit is. Whoever thought painting stripes all over the place was a good idea? It reminds me of the dazzle camouflage on WW1 battleships.

Portions remind me of a rat maze from the copter shots and the striping hurts my eyes from all camera angles.

[Mike Bell]

The Ferrari poster is great, referring to the track by it’s proper pre-Ricard name, ‘Le Castellet’. I wonder why they chose to do that?

Having attended historic events there several times, I’m not surprised by the suggestions of traffic problems to get to the place! Unless you fly in to the circuit’s own airport, access from either direction is uphill via a windy single carriageway road through small villages with even narrower streets....

The various coloured stripes on the run off areas are (from memory) coded to denote the grip level available. I was told this reduces the further away you get from the track itself. When you’re racing at almost ground level, they are hardly noticeable, but of course very obvious in camera shots! As the run offs were extremely dirty on my visits, you wouldn’t want to use them out of choice....

The circuit tarmac used to be very abrasive, but I understand that it has been completely redone for this GP. Will find out for ourselves in 2 months time, and also what other ‘improvements’ the F1 circus has bought to the place.....

[F1Guy]

A boring race with hardly any (if any) overtaking I think. Most of the paddock saying the same. The drivers have requested the chicane be removed.


Another Monaco?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

The drivers have requested the chicane be removed.

In what format/context have the drivers requested the chicane be removed?

Is it from drivers' columns in the press, in interview(s), at a drivers' briefing?....

[E.B]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

In what format/context have the drivers requested the chicane be removed?

Is it from drivers' columns in the press, in interview(s), at a drivers' briefing?....

Raised at the drivers briefing..... no changes can be made to the track as homologated for this years race was the response.

Drivers have voiced their desire to change the layout of the Paul Ricard circuit following the opening day’s running at the venue.

Making its return to the Formula 1 calendar for the first time in 28 years, the circuit now features a chicane midway down the Mistral Straight.

During the 1970s and the first half of the 1980s the circuit ran uninterrupted down the long back straight, before F1 used a shortened circuit following the testing accident which killed Elio de Angelis in 1986.

However drivers feel the chicane will detract from their ability to race, and have raised their concerns with the FIA during Friday night’s driver’s briefing.

“I think a long straight line will potentially create more overtakes,” said Brendon Hartley.

“I don’t think it will happen for tomorrow, but I’ve tested and raced without the chicane.

“It makes things interesting because it’s less downforce with the long straight line, Turn 10 becomes more of a corner, and so does the last sector with less downforce.

“Maybe it’s a discussion point for next year. The good news is here there are plenty of options....”

....No changes can be made to the venue for this weekend’s race, as the existing layout has been homologated.

Future changes, such as the removal of the chicane in the middle of the Mistral Straight, would require the FIA to analyse the impact that has to the run off area at Turn 6.

Full article: https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/06/23...icard-circuit/

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by E.B

Raised at the drivers briefing..... no changes can be made to the track as homologated for this years race was the response.


Full article: https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/06/23...icard-circuit/

E.B Thanks. I'm sure the drivers know it can't be changed for this year, but perhaps they are pushing for it to be assessed over the course of the weekend, in the hope of a change for 2019?

[F1Guy]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

A boring race with hardly any (if any) overtaking I think. Most of the paddock saying the same. The drivers have requested the chicane be removed.


Another Monaco?

This article just now on Motorsportweek.com. Most drivers agree with my post above.

https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/18750

[S griffin]

Unfortunately I have to wait till gone 10 to see highlights on C4. Dunno why though

I agree with the drivers, use the full straight, there'd be no need to use DRS if that was the case.

[GORDON STREETER]

A mate of mine phoned and said that he has been sitting in traffic for hours and has given up trying to get there. I don't think he's alone ?

[F1Guy]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

A mate of mine phoned and said that he has been sitting in traffic for hours and has given up trying to get there. I don't think he's alone ?

Not alone. There are many fans turning around and driving back home. Some with top tier tickets are going to watch the race from home or their hotels. Even fans who flew over from outside Europe!! Utter shambles.