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27 Jan 2004, 13:00 (Ref:852199) | #1 | ||
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Television Tango, Ten To Turn Turtle?
Interesting noise heard recently is the state of play in the world of advertising and television commercials. It seems that the direct correlation between ratings and chargeable time is causing no end of troubles for one of our major television networks.
It seems that certain advertisers and sponsors of the series have been getting concerned over the ratings of the Supercar series. The way commercial television networks sell airtime, is by selling advertising space in terms of TARPs related to specific demographics. For the uninitiated, a TARP is an OZTam ratings agency acronym meaning Target Audience Rating Point, which refers to a specific demographic target relative to the size of the total possible audience, taken from the ratings surveys OzTam conducts. So say the advertisers want to appeal to men in a certain age group, they buy the slot that has the history of that slot has shown to be successful in hitting the target audience. The network usually guarantees the number of TARP's to be achieved, or will run no-charge slots to make up the difference. The commercial networks sell airtime guaranteeing a certain number of TARP's for a particular price. Depending on how popular the show is, the prices may vary from $100 for a 30 second ad late at night when nobody cares, to $2500 for the popular news timeslot. Anyway, it seems there are a number of advertisers out there in television land who have purchased advertising on the V8 Supercar telecasts from around the nation. It seems there have been some issues in meeting the TARP audience targets at different telecasts during the year. And has got to the point where advertisers are not impressed at having to schedule extra slots which may not be timed to suit. For example, an Easter sale is not useful to be advertised in June... So the network has to give away all these free slots to cover the damage by the initial poor ratings. And for every free slot is a missed opportunity to get a paid slot in its place. Network Ten is said to be losing money on some of the telecasts, when the free slots are costed into the total picture. Which is concerning to the network, as it is the only one of the television operators not supported by a Stokes or a Packer. It seems that this may be the cause of some friction between Network Ten, the Home of Motorsport, and our friends at AVESCO. AVESCO is said to consider this to not be as big an issue as Ten make it out to be. While noise inside Ten suggests the only friend of motorsport lays in its upper management, it seems there are threats to reduce the coverage of the series on the network by as much as 50%, still within the confines of the existing contract. China is a problem for Ten in terms of cost, as would Dubai, having little infrastructure of its own, with contractors providing many technical services, it is a big imposition that is a difficult sell if the product is said to be a risk to the total business profitability. So in the end, Ten may not be the perfect partner in this sport that everyone (including me) enjoys. The risks are high, but seemingly silent. I would hate for anything to happen here, but in reality it seems there are some real problems that may be bubbling in the background |
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27 Jan 2004, 13:16 (Ref:852216) | #2 | |
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Well, if you cut out the preamble, the ads, the interviews and then (during the race) the non-racing bits (pitstops, feet, undercarriages, helmets, eyes and rollcages etc.) we usually only get about 45mins of racing now so this could be a real worry.
Seriously though, it IS a worry. Wonder if any of the cable networks would pick it up...or is the cost a factor there too? |
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Regarding the coverage of the overseas rounds in New Zealand and China, could it be likely that TEN/AVESCO will just get the local networks to film etc... and TEN just air it in Australia and commentate via the satelite.
I'd expect the in return for the drop in motorsport coverage, an increase in AFL. It's been happening since TEN got it for 2002, TEN's coverage of overseas events have dropped as a whole (their devotion to CART, WRC etc... isn't what it once was), this just could be the next stage, albeit the most noticeable. |
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Makes the following post by RPM Producer over at the RPM forum all the more interesting.
http://www.rpmlive.tv/community/pitb...picID=2&Page=3 |
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27 Jan 2004, 14:14 (Ref:852299) | #5 | |
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I just hope I don't get a phonecall when the schedule is released...
"Hey, remember the Channel Seven days of the SATCC running after the Monday night movie..." Don't say it won't happen! PLEASE DON'T! |
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Ah well, there is always the Procar stuff on 7.
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Considering C10 take all but the AGP from other tv stations the argument of sponsers pulling there money out because of this is a tad lame.The main problem for C10 is they cover to much motor sport to keep an advertiser interested.To look at a ten programe guide for a sunday (in peak season)you can play the spot the non motprsport program game.The ratings points tell us that C10 simply cannot get enough people to sit and watch the idiot box all day on a sunday.Advertisers know this.Until C10 look at this issue the problem will remain.When the AFL season starts in approximatly a monthes time the situation will get worse for motorsport.
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sponsors have pulled money resulting in the loss of teams due to TV coverage, so why not advertisers (Arai GP5 - your post gave me goosebumps...)
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I'm lead to believe that PROCAR are yet to secure coverage for all categories. Not sure how this will wash out, but I've heard that the Utes may not get coverage - not sure about the other categories. I wonder if the same TARP issues are occurring at C7 as well? |
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28 Jan 2004, 02:04 (Ref:853092) | #11 | |
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PROCAR's package will be aired on C7 this year as it was last year.
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28 Jan 2004, 02:04 (Ref:853093) | #12 | ||
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That post from the RPM producer mentions that there will be an increase in V8 Superstars shows. (or that the "program will be prominent in TEN's motorsport schedule." - am I assuming too much?) Could this suggest that C10's issues exist around the other forms of motorsport eg Trackside, Formula X-treme, etc.? |
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I hope so, no offence to competitors and fans of those catagories..
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I am sure Ross Palmer, once he reads this thread, will be able to clarify that "rumour"
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Having a different schedule of coverage for each round is also an issue, with the inconsisten timing of events meaning that there is no regularity to the coverage. That is something AVESCO should be working on, as it attempts to take the series to more and more rounds. The issue still remains that if the sponsors of the broadcasts arent being satisfied, it is likely that the only sponsors the sport can attract are automotive and engineering businesses... with some retail thrown in. |
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That'll be an absolute disaster if the Utes don't get coverage - that's PROCAR's best category.
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So the bigwigs at C10 say "well, we can't increase the number of V8 Supercar rounds, but we can increase the number of V8 Superstars shows, so let's just 86 the Saloon cars, MGs and Aussie legends." I'm aware that the live audience funding goes to charity, but surely C10 'cover their costs' first, making this option even more attractive. Just a theory, everyone. |
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Whatever the outcome I still reckon that there was some fine alliteration in the title of this thread ! Well done GTR !!
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Does that mean I could write headlines for AA?
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28 Jan 2004, 06:54 (Ref:853216) | #21 | |
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I'm very sure I'm right about the PROCAR TV. It did come from a pretty good source who ought to know.
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UTES NO TV. Just another FURPHY.
Why wouldn,t they get tv? It,s one of the most entertaining packages around in motorsport. Currently replayed in 80 countries throughout the world and with the International BRutes Fan club in the UK getting more popular by the year. Apart from the free to air expect that they have their own show on FOXSPORTS. V8 BRutes WILL HAVE TEE VEE THIS YEAR, I trust this post squashes that FURPHY. |
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Thanks Ross, nothing like getting word from the horses mouth! Keep up the great work you are doing and thank you for your paticipation in this forum.
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Dont be rude ROSS is NO HORSE !!!
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hey ross, will procar be releasing a dvd set of brutes gtp etc from last years season? and any news on what channel we will be watchin procar on this year?
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