Hans Device

Stuart H · 31 Dec 2007, 20:31 (Ref:2097250)

Does any one know where I can get a hans device from with out paying silly money?

I've tryed the GPR and Demon Tweeks but I'm looking at over 500 pound for it!

I'll try any idears!

Regards Stuart

**Tim Falce** · 31 Dec 2007, 20:35 (Ref:2097253)

They are silly money, there is no escape unless you buy second hand but that's not the sort of equipment I would buy second hand.

terence · 1 Jan 2008, 07:25 (Ref:2097433)

Another thing before you part with you're hard earned,check that you're seat IS compatible with one.
Alternative is a neck brace.

Eddy V · 1 Jan 2008, 09:35 (Ref:2097465)

Stuart, if you can buy a new one for 500, do it. That will be the cheapest you can get them.
All retailers (have to) sell them for about the same price, the silly things are far too expensive; but that has been talked about already too often here.

Second hand, like falcemob writes, I would never do. But if you and an equal sized friend can buy one for the both of you, go for that option.

andy97 · 1 Jan 2008, 09:40 (Ref:2097470)

Stuart

You have PM.

**Peter Mallett** · 1 Jan 2008, 14:36 (Ref:2097570)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart H

Does any one know where I can get a hans device from with out paying silly money?

I've tryed the GPR and Demon Tweeks but I'm looking at over 500 pound for it!

I'll try any idears!

Regards Stuart

When I bought mine it was more like £1000.00 so if its £500.00 its a bargain. You'll need a compatible helmet too.

As Terry says the seat must work with it too.

woodyracing · 2 Jan 2008, 15:22 (Ref:2098088)

Hi all,
how do you know if the seat is compatible ?

terence · 2 Jan 2008, 15:40 (Ref:2098097)

If you are going for a new seat it will be acvertised as such,if the seat is an older version,chances are it will not be suitable.The compatible seats are usualy the most expensive.Why do you need to go to Hans,there are several neck support collars available that will do a pretty good job,plus ,unlike a Hans,will give you're neck/head support during cornering/braking and acceleration.

JimW · 6 Jan 2008, 09:51 (Ref:2100495)

Quote:

Originally Posted by terence bower

If you are going for a new seat it will be advertised as such,if the seat is an older version,chances are it will not be suitable.The compatible seats are usually the most expensive.Why do you need to go to Hans,there are several neck support collars available that will do a pretty good job,plus ,unlike a Hans,will give you're neck/head support during cornering/braking and acceleration.

(I had hoped that someone else would say this but, so far, no takers.

)

No, neck collars don't perform anything like the function of a HANS device. I have even heard it said that they may increase the forces on the neck during the sort of accident against which the HANS is designed to protect.

If a soft neck collar does anything it helps support the head against cornering forces.

Regards

Jim

terence · 6 Jan 2008, 09:58 (Ref:2100497)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimW

(I had hoped that someone else would say this but, so far, no takers.

)

No, neck collars don't perform anything like the function of a HANS device. I have even heard it said that they may increase the forces on the neck during the sort of accident against which the HANS is designed to protect.

If a soft neck collar does anything it helps support the head against cornering forces.

Regards

Jim

If the correctly fitting neck brace is used it will be as effective as the HANS,dont forget that they are available in different fittings.

Al Weyman · 2 Jan 2008, 16:22 (Ref:2098107)

Quote:

Why do you need to go to Hans,

Because F1 and BTCC drivers use them and they look cool.

woodyracing · 2 Jan 2008, 16:29 (Ref:2098115)

well if that's the best neck safety device Formula 1 can come up with, then it's good enough for me :-)

I've got a Corbeau Revolution seat and I use a neck collar. I would buy a Hans but cost is an issue at the moment especially needing to upgrade or update my helmet. If I went back to single seaters I would definately want a Hans.

Andy.

terence · 2 Jan 2008, 16:42 (Ref:2098117)

Fairy nuff, But dont forget the Hans is only to stop you're head going forward in a Big Shunt.

rescue dude · 5 Jan 2008, 09:14 (Ref:2099775)

Quote:

Originally Posted by terence bower

Fairy nuff, But dont forget the Hans is only to stop you're head going forward in a Big Shunt.

Or to the side.

woodyracing · 2 Jan 2008, 17:15 (Ref:2098134)

true, hopefully my seat will stop my head from moving sideways too much.

my OMP neck collar has a tendancy to spin around, so by the end of a race it could be backwards or sideways

Eddy V · 2 Jan 2008, 18:23 (Ref:2098160)

Andy, a Corbeau Revolution seat wasn't made yet for Hans, but as it has the same dimensions as a Sparco Touring VTR (also non Hans) you should be able to drive with a Hans without being uncomfy (all depending on your size obviously).
The "being compatible" is that the new(er) seats are a bit more straight in upper part of the back to give room for the system. Plus they will have bigger holes for the belts as well. That is about it.

woodyracing · 3 Jan 2008, 13:44 (Ref:2098621)

hmm ok, thanks for that.

MGDavid · 5 Jan 2008, 23:22 (Ref:2100371)

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodyracing

my OMP neck collar has a tendancy to spin around, so by the end of a race it could be backwards or sideways

I've got a car like that

**Peter Mallett** · 5 Jan 2008, 09:54 (Ref:2099808)

Nope its really a longitudinal function. This is whay some say it isn't worth it for historic/club racing. I have one because the slightest incapacity will cost me a lot of money.

The Hans restraints serve to restrict twisting but that is a side effect (pardon the pun). The Leatt Brace is a sideways and vertical protection but as I understand it it isn't yet homologated by the FIA.

terence · 5 Jan 2008, 10:24 (Ref:2099866)

Exactly Peter,why would you need side restraint in an F1 car when the cockpit is designed to restrict it anyway.

gachjoel · 5 Jan 2008, 18:02 (Ref:2100195)

Quote:

Originally Posted by terence bower

Exactly Peter,why would you need side restraint in an F1 car when the cockpit is designed to restrict it anyway.

Please refer to an earlier quote

Quote:

Originally Posted by al weyman

they look cool.

**Peter Mallett** · 5 Jan 2008, 18:05 (Ref:2100197)

They look bloody silly when you've got the helmet halfway off and the neck section tangled in your collar!

terence · 5 Jan 2008, 18:19 (Ref:2100200)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

They look bloody silly when you've got the helmet halfway off and the neck section tangled in your collar!

There are also pretty dangerous when you're stumbling around not being able to see where you're going.

Eddy V · 5 Jan 2008, 20:51 (Ref:2100288)

They can be very dangerous, I've seen one driver trying to get out of his car and his system somehow got stuck between the rollcage and the roof.

Looked funny for a while.

midgetman · 6 Jan 2008, 17:03 (Ref:2100707)

I agree with Jim, the neck brace will tilt with the helmet so the neck still moves around. I think an ordinary neck brace is a dreadfully uncomfortable piece of kit, I tried one for a time then gave up, but each to their own.

Woody: If you neck collar spins round then buy one of the "anatomical" designs that point downwards at the back. Alternatively, you may have it on upside down, it's not unheard of and easily done.

I'd wear a HANS if I could afford it, I had a sore neck once from a shunt but not enough to keep me off work, therefore I've taken a calculated risk that any accident will leave me uncomfortable but not incapacitated. Life's like that, hundreds of risk/cost calculations every day.

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