New Renault on Track

**Adam43** · 25 Jan 2005, 11:11 (Ref:1209383)

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=41640&s=5

It has hit the tracks, although not official launched.

The front wing is a V shaped and appears to continue to rise as we move from the centre all the way to the edge (not just to rise from the central section that can be lower).

The rear dips away after the sidepod too (as is becoming the norm?).

And we have QE2 funnels on the side-pods. I think they are bigger than the McLaren's, but smaller than the Toyota's?

*off to look for some bigger pics!*

Glen · 25 Jan 2005, 11:25 (Ref:1209401)

Gill frenzy.

Very pointy.

**Adam43** · 25 Jan 2005, 12:35 (Ref:1209453)

sorry, f1-live didn't have any pics when I posted it. Try the Valencia test pics on F1-live: http://f1.racing-live.com/en/photos/...sts10_01.shtml

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Originally Posted by Glen

Gill frenzy.

Yes that is quite odd.

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Originally Posted by Glen

Very pointy.

The nose is reminiscent of the McLaren 'ant-eater' nose.

SetikX · 25 Jan 2005, 11:32 (Ref:1209409)

Can anyone post the url to the picture itself, i cant find where the url goes to.

Glen · 25 Jan 2005, 12:11 (Ref:1209438)

Have a look on F1Live. You need to subscribe to Autosport to see pics.

Glen · 25 Jan 2005, 12:56 (Ref:1209473)

Gills - cooling appears to be a high priority - radiator inlets are on the big side by modern standards and sidepod venting is liberal to say the least. Maybe that is relate to long-life engines... perhaps it is felt that ample cooling is essential if you're going to stress an engine hard over long periods. The key strategy for other teams appears to be go for marginal cooling and hence optimal aerodynamic performance and then have strict guidelines fo rengine usage which mean not running max revs a lot of the time. Ironically, that could mean a Renault that qualifies relatively poorly, but races fast.

ASCII Man · 25 Jan 2005, 13:20 (Ref:1209502)

Pretty strange rear wing design as well though...

Kicking-back · 25 Jan 2005, 13:24 (Ref:1209505)

Retains a Renault "family look".

Front wing similar to the BAR

Tweed · 25 Jan 2005, 13:25 (Ref:1209508)

Can't get used to these 'deep' rear wings, they look quite clumsy.

Sodemo · 25 Jan 2005, 13:31 (Ref:1209519)

Looks nice, love the vast cooling grills.
Looks better than their 04' car.

Kicking-back · 25 Jan 2005, 13:36 (Ref:1209531)

The new livery will be unveiled next Tuesday in Monaco.

Giando · 25 Jan 2005, 13:57 (Ref:1209561)

Looking at the sideviews... don't you think that the zone behind the driver's seat up to the rear axis is a little longer than the one seen in other 2005 cars?
I believe Bar and Sauber are shorter there.

And the fuel tank seems short and little too...

The front nose instead is very similar to 2004 McLaren, so narrow...

Your opinion?

Glen · 25 Jan 2005, 17:27 (Ref:1209716)

That rear wing must flex, surely? Can't see that surviving without a protest.

I'd also like to see if the gills on the sidepods close at all at high speed due to air pressure - would be clever but illegal.

Sodemo · 25 Jan 2005, 17:47 (Ref:1209727)

Im with you Glen on that. The rear wing must flex under high load, im sure we'll see that investigated...

**Adam43** · 25 Jan 2005, 18:06 (Ref:1209741)

A centre support that attaches to the top of the wing plane below (which looks very secure) might give it enough rigidity. After all it is not whether it bends, but how much.

Kicking-back · 25 Jan 2005, 18:09 (Ref:1209743)

The concept of that Renault wing is quite similar to last years - which was legal, clearly.

alesi95 · 25 Jan 2005, 19:35 (Ref:1209784)

The rear of the sidepods are non existent. Interesting gills on engine cover too.

ralf fan · 25 Jan 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1209765)

hmm...very pointy nose..almost like the nose of the Macs last year....
front wing almost arched into the letter 'V'

Magical Trevor · 25 Jan 2005, 20:06 (Ref:1209805)

Eugh, not diggin' the new wing.
They're putting so much downforce equipment on the cars nowadays they're starting to look like modern batmobiles.

Knowlesy · 25 Jan 2005, 21:12 (Ref:1209840)

The rear wing is the same as last year's R24 surely?

I'd need some detail pics, but it looks almost identical.

Overall, I find this Renault quite hideous with all its gills and trickery. The nose is alright. If it is fast, I'll stop complaining!

Sodemo · 25 Jan 2005, 22:11 (Ref:1209910)

[QUOTE=knowlesy]The rear wing is the same as last year's R24 surely?[QUOTE]

Rather crazily it seems as though all the rear wings will be huge this year, I don't understand why the FIA didn't just say make the rear wings twice as small?

Kicking-back · 25 Jan 2005, 22:13 (Ref:1209913)

The FIA reduced the size of the wing elements to reduce downforce.

But at the same time they wanted to increase drag - hence the bigger endplates (which have a by product of having more advertising space.

Sodemo · 25 Jan 2005, 22:55 (Ref:1209962)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

The FIA reduced the size of the wing elements to reduce downforce.

But at the same time they wanted to increase drag - hence the bigger endplates (which have a by product of having more advertising space.

Have they reduced the size of the wing elements?

I thought they had just moved the rear wing forward?

Jordi · 25 Jan 2005, 22:45 (Ref:1209948)

Actually that rear wing appeared in mid-2003.

James North · 26 Jan 2005, 09:31 (Ref:1210159)

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Originally Posted by Jordi

Actually that rear wing appeared in mid-2003.

Indeed it did. Really the only major changes to it, have been the overall size of the endplates, fitting in with the new regulations.

I remember first spotting that general concept of the rearwing at 2003 Silverstone test session.

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