Webber off to Porsche for 2014

wnut · 27 Jun 2013, 08:32 (Ref:3270363)

Webber has announced he is going to Porsche for 2014.

http://www.pitpass.com/49333-Webber-to-leave-F1

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Jun 2013, 08:38 (Ref:3270365)

Yup also on BBC.

Peat · 27 Jun 2013, 08:39 (Ref:3270366)

Keep up at the back! http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...=137396&page=8

Grandpa_Rob · 27 Jun 2013, 09:01 (Ref:3270381)

Was there at Albert Park when had his maiden race in F1, not a bad innings as F1 drivers go.

frostie · 27 Jun 2013, 09:19 (Ref:3270402)

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Originally Posted by Grandpa_Rob

Was there at Albert Park when had his maiden race in F1, not a bad innings as F1 drivers go.

He'll move to tenth in the all time starters list this weekend

**bella** · 27 Jun 2013, 09:46 (Ref:3270420)

we ought to see some good drives from him in the remainder of the season now he's "free" then...

Mike E · 27 Jun 2013, 10:02 (Ref:3270424)

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Originally Posted by bella

we ought to see some good drives from him in the remainder of the season now he's "free" then...

Or he will be told to move over for Vettel at every opportunity. But will he?

wnut · 27 Jun 2013, 10:24 (Ref:3270434)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Or he will be told to move over for Vettel at every opportunity. But will he?

He has to, because that is what you do when a blue flag is displayed!

sparkione · 1 Jul 2013, 17:33 (Ref:3272528)

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Originally Posted by wnut

He has to, because that is what you do when a blue flag is displayed!

Messrs Horner and Newey don't have a blue flag...

porman · 27 Jun 2013, 10:25 (Ref:3270436)

I think he will prefer the environment at Porsche and will do well. I myself am happy about his decision.

jedrinck · 27 Jun 2013, 10:27 (Ref:3270438)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Or he will be told to move over for Vettel at every opportunity. But will he?

I don't see how knowing that a driver will leave after the season would influence such decisions. Also, there won't be any more obvious team orders at RB. It's bad for the drinks company corporate image and neither of the drivers would obey anyway so it would be pointless.

Mr V · 27 Jun 2013, 15:08 (Ref:3270637)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Or he will be told to move over for Vettel at every opportunity. But will he?

He's got to get close to Vettel first

wolfhound · 27 Jun 2013, 10:30 (Ref:3270440)

So who will replace Webber, my guess is a monosylabic party loving Finn who allmost allways gets to the finnish.

Steptoe · 27 Jun 2013, 10:33 (Ref:3270443)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

So who will replace Webber, my guess is a monosylabic party loving Finn who allmost allways gets to the finnish.

Yep expect a Kimmi announcement pretty soon

**bella** · 27 Jun 2013, 10:52 (Ref:3270446)

i notice a lot of people on twitter are asking why there's a red bull young driver scheme if they don't ever intend to promote them to the actual main f1 team.

really, given the choice between signing kimi (potentially) or promoting jev or ricciardo... it's a no brainer. if kimi wasn't an option then fair enough, you're not going to get many better drivers than the ones they have at toro rosso.

but what sort of driver should red bull consider replacing webber with? do they go for a compliant sort, or someone completely different who will make vettel's life more difficult?

Steptoe · 27 Jun 2013, 10:58 (Ref:3270449)

With Red Bulls image which is generally extreme sports etc. Kimi fits the bill perfectly, a little out there takes risks and parties, but with F1 the Red Bull image is somewhat diluted and has to be more corporate and business like which we all know Kimi does not like. We'll see I guess.

**Aysedasi** · 27 Jun 2013, 12:29 (Ref:3270503)

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Originally Posted by bella

but what sort of driver should red bull consider replacing webber with? do they go for a compliant sort, or someone completely different who will make vettel's life more difficult?

Personally, I see that as a no-brainer Bella, if Vettel is staying.....

Jimmy Magnusson · 27 Jun 2013, 12:42 (Ref:3270519)

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Originally Posted by bella

i notice a lot of people on twitter are asking why there's a red bull young driver scheme if they don't ever intend to promote them to the actual main f1 team.

Sort of depends on what the mission statement of the young driver scheme is, to produce really good drivers or world champions. I mean, if you only get 1-2 Vettels out of all these drivers then that's probably a fair trade.

**Adam43** · 27 Jun 2013, 19:23 (Ref:3270773)

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Originally Posted by bella

i notice a lot of people on twitter are asking why there's a red bull young driver scheme if they don't ever intend to promote them to the actual main f1 team.

That is a simplistic view expressed on twitter. The intention is they might find a new driver, but it isn't easy to find the next star. Although they did it with Vettel.
The intention is there, but to think it should be automatic and if a better option comes along they don't take it is simplistic.

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Did Renault buy Porsche??

**GTRMagic** · 27 Jun 2013, 10:59 (Ref:3270450)

Did Renault buy Porsche??

Gingers4Justice · 27 Jun 2013, 11:20 (Ref:3270456)

Not so sure about Kimmi myself. RB obviously want to keep Vettel but I can't see him wanting to be anything other than a clear number 1.

I'm sure some of the front running teams have kept Kobayashi's number. On his day, he can be fabulously quick and he seems to have cut the crashing from his racing. He's only going to mature further in the WEC.

In fact I think he's the best option as a number 2, because he has the pace to win, but not the consistency to trouble Vettel in the Championship over a course of a season. He's who I'd be snapping up.

And putting that man in a potential racing winning machine at Suzuka could be worth its weight in gold.

steve_r · 27 Jun 2013, 13:03 (Ref:3270536)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

I'm sure some of the front running teams have kept Kobayashi's number. On his day, he can be fabulously quick and he seems to have cut the crashing from his racing. He's only going to mature further in the WEC.

Much as most people liked Koyashi, he does not deserve to be in the best car on the grid. Next thing, someone will suggesting Heidfeld again!

Gingers4Justice · 27 Jun 2013, 13:23 (Ref:3270559)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

Much as most people liked Koyashi, he does not deserve to be in the best car on the grid. Next thing, someone will suggesting Heidfeld again!

Well it's not about "deserving". The F1 grid has never has a direct positive correlation between driving talent and competitiveness of car...

My point is Red Bull may be after a number 2, which is what Kobayashi most certainly would be,

Mekola · 27 Jun 2013, 15:13 (Ref:3270643)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

Much as most people liked Koyashi, he does not deserve to be in the best car on the grid. Next thing, someone will suggesting Heidfeld again!

Heidfeld with another opportunity? Why not?

Entropy Nebula · 27 Jun 2013, 11:20 (Ref:3270455)

Fantastic news!! I'm quite looking forward to seeing Mark in the Porsche, he'll thrive in the more laid back atmosphere without any of the politics of F1.

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