Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > Australasian Touring Cars.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 8 Jun 2023, 22:48 (Ref:4160894)   #1
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
Gen 3 progress

DJR.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/06/07...-free-qr-test/
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 8 Jun 2023, 22:51 (Ref:4160895)   #2
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
Edwards hopeful.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/06/08...rity-band-aid/
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 9 Jun 2023, 11:09 (Ref:4160984)   #3
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 47,507
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
With the success on track at LeMans fog the NASCAR Garage 56 entry, just imagine what would have been said of a Red Bull Chevrolet Camaro Gen3 with a VanGisbergen/Feeney/Whincup/Stanaway driving line up.

That Hendricks car is making everyone else look silly…

Would have been nice for an Australian package to have done it instead.
GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Go woke, Go broke… #CANCERSUCKS #GOCHIKO
Here’s hoping a random universe works out in your favour…
The meaning of life… ENJOYING THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
Quote
Old 9 Jun 2023, 22:47 (Ref:4161136)   #4
Tourer
Veteran
 
Tourer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Australia
Sideways
Posts: 4,704
Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTRMagic View Post
With the success on track at LeMans fog the NASCAR Garage 56 entry, just imagine what would have been said of a Red Bull Chevrolet Camaro Gen3 with a VanGisbergen/Feeney/Whincup/Stanaway driving line up.

That Hendricks car is making everyone else look silly…

Would have been nice for an Australian package to have done it instead.
Was thinking the same thing yesterday as I watched on-board from the old girl lapping Le Mans - although a Gen 3 would likely be slower than a Gen 2. Some kind of hybrid would be cool though, which of course is what the Garage 56 car is.

Thought is was really funny that the pre-event drivers briefing agreed to show the white flag for the Garage 56 car in the expectation that it would be really slow, yet it is actually quicker than all the GT cars. Bit of Euro-snobbery put back in its place, which is no bad thing.

I expect that race pace and efficiency might tell a different story but so far, the car is generating a great Le Mans story.
Tourer is offline  
__________________
“We’re far from having too much horsepower…[m]y definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.” ― Mark Donohue
Quote
Old 10 Jun 2023, 05:19 (Ref:4161164)   #5
Mixer
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location:
Surry Hills, NSW
Posts: 6,798
Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
It would be really good if the supposed big 2 Ford teams can put up a real fight against 888 and Erebus.

I do not think any of the drivers in the top 4 Fords are right at the top anymore - Waters probably the best but he's really erratic.

ADP should be up there but somehow being at DJR has dulled him.

Will and Courtney are past their best.
Mixer is offline  
Quote
Old 14 Jun 2023, 13:05 (Ref:4163672)   #6
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 47,507
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourer View Post
Was thinking the same thing yesterday as I watched on-board from the old girl lapping Le Mans - although a Gen 3 would likely be slower than a Gen 2. Some kind of hybrid would be cool though, which of course is what the Garage 56 car is.

Thought is was really funny that the pre-event drivers briefing agreed to show the white flag for the Garage 56 car in the expectation that it would be really slow, yet it is actually quicker than all the GT cars. Bit of Euro-snobbery put back in its place, which is no bad thing.

I expect that race pace and efficiency might tell a different story but so far, the car is generating a great Le Mans story.
Front page of AA this week suggests Mr Adderton is looking to run his 888-built V8Supercar Gen3 in the 2024 Le Mans 24 hour…

Art imitates life imitating art…
GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Go woke, Go broke… #CANCERSUCKS #GOCHIKO
Here’s hoping a random universe works out in your favour…
The meaning of life… ENJOYING THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
Quote
Old 15 Jun 2023, 17:11 (Ref:4163902)   #7
FIRE
Race Official
Veteran
 
FIRE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Netherlands
Posts: 18,905
FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTRMagic View Post
Front page of AA this week suggests Mr Adderton is looking to run his 888-built V8Supercar Gen3 in the 2024 Le Mans 24 hour…

Art imitates life imitating art…
From ACO's perspective this makes no sense.

If he wants to race at Le Mans he can better become a Corvette GT3 customer, race in ALMS and qualify for the 24h race.
FIRE is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Jun 2023, 18:31 (Ref:4163910)   #8
Mixer
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location:
Surry Hills, NSW
Posts: 6,798
Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Adderton is nothing but a blowhard l, why is AA giving him free publicity?
Mixer is offline  
Quote
Old 10 Jun 2023, 07:38 (Ref:4161182)   #9
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
New Mustang engine map for Hidden Valley.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/06/10...rs-engine-map/
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 18 Jun 2023, 09:53 (Ref:4164329)   #10
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 47,507
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Back to the conversation about Gen3 for a moment..

When will the technical brainstrust at V8Supercar place an engine at Walkinshaw for Dr Higgins to evaluate & redesign configuration and mapping of the Ford engine?

The almost chooklotto approach to dumping new and ‘improved’ engine maps in cars without on track testing surely cannot continue..
GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Go woke, Go broke… #CANCERSUCKS #GOCHIKO
Here’s hoping a random universe works out in your favour…
The meaning of life… ENJOYING THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
Quote
Old 18 Jun 2023, 21:16 (Ref:4164522)   #11
kittle
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 804
kittle should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
After 15 races, I don't know how Supercars can be happy with the progress of the new car.

From the first test at SMP, there was an issue with the Ford. As much as Barry Ryan said all the Ford teams were sandbagging.

When are they going to wake up and fix this issue. Its a joke..
kittle is offline  
Quote
Old 18 Jun 2023, 22:29 (Ref:4164532)   #12
Matt K
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,126
Matt K should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridMatt K should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Well, it is and it's getting worse and worse I fear. Ok, Ford teams may not be doing the best job possible, that's likely. DJR slump is something I expected, the same as Tickford and WAU being too inconsistent to think of really challenging Triple 8 for the championship. But for DJR to have such a steep slump and Tickford and WAU being very rarely in a frame to fight for a podium? That's quite surprising, given the likes of Team 18 and Matt Stone Racing have victories while PremiAir very consistent top 10 finishes. Ok, they might've done a good job over the winter (or summer I should say) and fair play to them but this feels somehow peculiar that all Chevrolet teams seem to have an uptick in performance (well, except for Triple 8 actually) while all Ford teams have some sort of slump in performance.
Supercars is on a good path to lose Ford and with it there might be a big struggle for the championship's survival. All of that is really worrying.
Matt K is online now  
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2023, 00:28 (Ref:4164543)   #13
Compromised
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 854
Compromised should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Clearly, a one make series is the only practical option for Australia's premier category moving forward.

I mean, the proof is in the pudding. Wether the cars are equal or not is irrelevant - the perception of inequality is all it takes for the rot to set. Due to the inherit competitive nature of the sport, teams are always going to use/abuse parity and the series itself appears incompetent enough to give weight to these claims, true or not.

I just want to watch cars go fast, don't care if they're all the same.
Compromised is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2023, 00:54 (Ref:4164546)   #14
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 47,507
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
So the Ford teams.. complained about engine power and power delivery
Mr Grove is now saying the aero is crap

Is it one or other? Or both?
Does anybody know… the Ford teams seem to be unclear.
And the series controllers seem to have lost their tongue..

It might suggest choosing a different Ford homologation team next time round could be of benefit.
GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Go woke, Go broke… #CANCERSUCKS #GOCHIKO
Here’s hoping a random universe works out in your favour…
The meaning of life… ENJOYING THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2023, 01:13 (Ref:4164547)   #15
Just Do It!
Veteran
 
Just Do It!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location:
New Zealand
Posts: 4,394
Just Do It! should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridJust Do It! should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridJust Do It! should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Cam proved them wrong until the disaster happened
Just Do It! is offline  
__________________
Tranquillity - What happens inside Shane's race car. Chaos - What happens outside Jamie's race car.
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2023, 05:45 (Ref:4164557)   #16
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
Best thing for Ford to do is to get out of supercars altogether and concentrate on GT3, GT4 and production cars, technical parity does not work.
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2023, 22:58 (Ref:4164713)   #17
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
DJR boss calls for urgent parity action

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/06/19...parity-action/
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2023, 23:32 (Ref:4164717)   #18
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
Percat: Mustang ‘not even close’ to Camaro

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/06/18...ose-to-camaro/
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Jun 2023, 09:26 (Ref:4164742)   #19
Mixer
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location:
Surry Hills, NSW
Posts: 6,798
Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesport View Post
Percat: Mustang ‘not even close’ to Camaro
Percat: 'not even close' to his teammate - seeks excuse.
Mixer is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2023, 00:12 (Ref:4164834)   #20
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 47,507
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mixer View Post
Percat: 'not even close' to his teammate - seeks excuse.
Mr Wood or Mr Waters might have better luck in that car…
GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Go woke, Go broke… #CANCERSUCKS #GOCHIKO
Here’s hoping a random universe works out in your favour…
The meaning of life… ENJOYING THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2023, 00:17 (Ref:4164835)   #21
Mixer
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location:
Surry Hills, NSW
Posts: 6,798
Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTRMagic View Post
Mr Wood or Mr Waters might have better luck in that car…
Waters is in the John Bowe club.

Flashes of brilliance punctuated by crashes and letdowns by the team on every front.

Too busy whingeing about parity to deal with the genuine issues.
Mixer is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Jun 2023, 06:44 (Ref:4164734)   #22
Compromised
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 854
Compromised should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Weren't the 2019 parity changes to the Mustang made in April of that year?

I remember that "car" (ie.Scotty) being similar in dominance, results wise anyway
Compromised is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Jun 2023, 07:53 (Ref:4164736)   #23
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
Whincup steadfast in Supercars parity stance

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/06/20...parity-stance/
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2023, 07:32 (Ref:4164846)   #24
bluesport
Veteran
 
bluesport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Australia
Posts: 3,664
bluesport User had had their licence endorsedbluesport User had had their licence endorsed
Supercars confirms trigger of parity review

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/06/21...iew-confirmed/
bluesport is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2023, 07:33 (Ref:4164847)   #25
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 47,507
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Welcome to the beginning of the end..

Supercar Kicks off Contracted Parity Review

And asking the homologation teams for recommendations.

Really?

Is it aero? Is it engine?
Does anybody know?

The team owners don’t seem to..
GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Go woke, Go broke… #CANCERSUCKS #GOCHIKO
Here’s hoping a random universe works out in your favour…
The meaning of life… ENJOYING THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3rd Gen Camaro at Le Mans? Al Weyman Motorsport History 12 19 Jan 2013 08:18
NASCAR coming to next gen consoles at last Knowlesy Virtual Racers 35 21 Aug 2007 18:42
Next-Gen GTR JAG Virtual Racers 4 7 Dec 2005 22:51
next gen champ car jklein6419 ChampCar World Series 31 29 Nov 2004 20:23
Gen IV B/Mark IRL Indycar Series 14 22 Jul 2003 04:33


All times are GMT. The time now is 00:58.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.