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1 Oct 2022, 17:40 (Ref:4128137) | #1 | ||
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Electric future for STCC from 2023
A couple months ago STCC announced the series switches to electric powered cars in 2023. I think this interesting move justifies an own topic.
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For comparison: eTCR has a battery of 62 kWh and power output of 400 bhp (670 bhp in push-to-pass mode). Last edited by FIRE; 1 Oct 2022 at 17:49. |
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It's as if nothing has ever gets learnt from recent history. Going their own way with a novel formula that more resembles DTM than standard touring cars. They've been here before with TTA and it was a disaster on a scale that touring car racing in Scandinavia still hasn't fully recovered from - although TCR Scandinavia was looking like a step in the right direction for a while. |
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At the end - like it or not - electric cars are the future. Sweden is one of the frontrunners. |
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On the cars - the specs so far suggest that performance will be closer to a single-seater than a traditional tin-top (in terms of acceleration at least). It will be interesting to see how drivers adapt to what may require a totally different style of driving. We've seen with NGTC how some drivers can excel in some series, but struggle to adapt to a different concept. This seems like an even bigger change in characteristics? |
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TTA was Solution-F chassis with Nissan V6. |
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Very interesting. Sounds promising, but seems like a big job for EPWR, I assume not the biggest or wealthiest organisation / company in comparison to the whole of ETCR. Looking forward to hearing more updates!
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Assume teams are responsible for developing the base car, EPWR for addming the electric parts. But still it's a huge project. |
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True but I have the impression there isn't much going on in eTCR. Correct me if I am wrong but next season they still have the "rallycross" format instead of proper touring car racing with a full grid.
Besides that both the Cupra eTCR car and Cupra PWR001 car were presented in 2018, so both development projects were running alongside. PWR didn't start after eTCR. So you could also argue why didn't eTCR use the PWR001 formula? |
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A risky move indeed!
Maybe they add a round in Norway? |
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Risky, but an exciting prospect too.
With TC2000 introducing SUVs, and STCC going electric, the future direction for those respective series aligns with showroom trends. Clearly there is a promising future for EV-based tin-tops, and this will surely be the first of many series to make the leap forward. |
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Tc2000 are not introducing SUVs. They are just allowing shapes similar to SUVs ala the TTA era STCC solution F cars. Where you had a dacia "style" body that looked nothing like the siloeute of a Dacia.
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TC2000 uses actual production bodies.
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Most things are not beyond discussion, but sometimes we get some topics that are just simple repeats of what we’ve all heard before. And this ruins discussion on another topic.
These are normally the ones where people need to be right on the internet. And it is usually the same people who have been asked before to not ruin a thread by doing it. So, give it a rest. It isn’t killing freedom of speech or anything - as it’s already been said! It is quite the opposite. It’s about allowing the freedom for all topics. It is very disappointing that people rush into a new thread to make the usual points. Especially those with little interest in the actual topic. So discuss the series. That’s the topic. /mod |
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I will be following this series next year - I am keen on the concept of regulating the electric components while allowing different chassis/bodies.
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BMW branding aside - 'Twelve cars are currently in build for the 2023 season' - is a promising early indicator for such a big change in regulations.
If this goes as well as hoped, I expect many other series will quickly follow. |
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Honestly saying, I will give the "e" STCC a chance. Out of current electric championships, this (on paper) seems like the best one by far.
As much as I dislike the concept of electric motor industry in general and I'm not sure if it's really that eco, the times are changing and this has to be acknowledged. Electric cars seem like a future (unless hydrogen happens to be a better idea) so naturally motorsport will become electric as well. STCC might be a real look into how touring car racing might really 'function' in not a distant future and I'm quite interested in how it all pans out. Good concept, that's for sure. Can imagine BTCC following suit relatively quickly if STCC becomes success. |
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Old style motorsport is still what I prefer but times are indeed changing. I don't like Formula E, but the cars of WRX and eTCR aren't bad to watch. The latter needs only more cars and a proper racing format instead of the "rallycross" format. |
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I agree, the eTCR cars themselves seem quite good - okay, it'll take me a while until I accept the 'sound' - but other than that they seem nice to watch, a bit Supercars-like tbh. But the format of the series just kills it.
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