GP 2012 General chat (split from volunteering thread)

[Charlyw001]

[Posts from GP 2012 Volunteering Thread, split out so that thread is more relevant - Piglet]


Oh that could be amusing either the GP or merely applying.

Charlotte

[Postie]

Is now to early to ask for a spare ticket ?

[NewYankee01]

Originally Posted by Postie

Is now to early to ask for a spare ticket ?

youd be lucky mate if you could get a spare ticket!!!!!!!!! chances are youll have to get picked to get a spare ticket! i know i wouldnt ask for one, especially if you may have started, even though i dont normally mind asking for things, its like me i dont know much people, ive done a pile of dates started off end of last year there's this frustrating time as a trainee that a gp is at least a year away,

you wouldnt really stand a hope because theres no one in the family who wants a spare club ticket but when a gp ticket is offered that's another story! anyway love your eagerness! there's always next year. i might be wrong i know someone who gave a ticket to one of their family and didnt use it!

[HairyDJ]

Originally Posted by Postie

Is now to early to ask for a spare ticket ?

Yes In previous years the guest had to stay in the same caravan / tent due to camp site space limitations, however this year due to the economic downturn you'll be required to share sleeping bags

After the huge "oversubscription" in 2009, I've not seen info on how numbers turned out for the last couple of years - any rough idea Chris?

[M Greenslade]

Dear God is it already that time of year when I need to start planning the 'alternative weekend' hopefully it will be Cadwell again............

Bladders.

[NewYankee01]

Originally Posted by M Greenslade

Dear God is it already that time of year when I need to start planning the 'alternative weekend' hopefully it will be Cadwell again............

Bladders.

if there is one, i was barely able to marshal the same weekend this year, weekend meeting, 240 miles away...

[theracegypsy]

Originally Posted by M Greenslade

Dear God is it already that time of year when I need to start planning the 'alternative weekend' hopefully it will be Cadwell again............

Bladders.

You could always come to Toronto Indy

[deadsquirrel]

Originally Posted by theracegypsy

You could always come to Toronto Indy

What, compared to the Formula 1 Grand Prix?
In Toronto, you have to deal with doughnuts/coffee in the mornings, a clean portaloo on post, coolers full of cold drinks, packed lunches brought to post at lunchtime, ability to flag based on your skill and experience. Who'd want to do that?

[SuperDuff]

Originally Posted by deadsquirrel

What, compared to the Formula 1 Grand Prix?
In Toronto, you have to deal with doughnuts/coffee in the mornings, a clean portaloo on post, coolers full of cold drinks, packed lunches brought to post at lunchtime, ability to flag based on your skill and experience. Who'd want to do that?

Sounds terrible

[Ian Lewis]

Originally Posted by deadsquirrel

What, compared to the Formula 1 Grand Prix?
In Toronto, you have to deal with doughnuts/coffee in the mornings, a clean portaloo on post, coolers full of cold drinks, packed lunches brought to post at lunchtime, ability to flag based on your skill and experience. Who'd want to do that?

Are the flights all free too? What about accommodation??

You lucky fellow

[deadsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Ian Lewis

Are the flights all free too? What about accommodation??

You lucky fellow

We weren't talking cost of getting/staying at the event.

Yes, I'm lucky to have done the event, and hope to do it again in years to come.

I was suggesting that aspiring to marshal at F1 shouldn't necessarily be the pinnacle.

A very good trip to Canada is easily cheaper than what a lot of people spend on cigarettes in a year!

[LandieLad]

Received mine today

[NewYankee01]

Originally Posted by garybirch

Form on MSA site: http://www.msaevents.co.uk/documents..._MASTER(1).pdf

thanks gary for the link.

[garybirch]

Just realised i'll only have 11 days this year, so looking for one more day as Post Chief.
Dates available are 12,19,26 Nov or even 3rd Dec.
Any suggestions.

[Piglet]

MSVR have three one dayers on the 5th, 12th and 19th November - all at Brands Hatch, the 12th will include the Victor Meldrew!

[Bodysnatcher]

Originally Posted by garybirch

so looking for one more day as Post Chief.
Dates available are 12,19,26 Nov or even 3rd Dec.
Any suggestions.

12 & 19 Nov are MSVR Brands - Meldrew's and then Britcar into the night.

[NewYankee01]

gt1's is easy to remember the club for me, its the only brscc organised event ive done!

any event that has a whiff of being international will pretty much be... international! i dont want to send out the wrong messages but gt1's travel the world, its not like formula 3's that stray into europe once or twice a year. these are undoubtably fia it says so on the website,

[numbersix]

Oh, ****, here we go again. We've got to scratch about putting permit details onto an MSA form - the same MSA that has all details of all the permits on file!

[Tris1976]

Originally Posted by numbersix

Oh, ****, here we go again. We've got to scratch about putting permit details onto an MSA form - the same MSA that has all details of all the permits on file!

They just want to see if you've been paying attention throughout the year - could be a useful skill.

[numbersix]

Bah ... Humbug, and all that Scroogie jazz.

[M Greenslade]

Originally Posted by HairyDJ

lifted from the form is pretty clear - 12+ in the duty, but must have been graded by the time you apply. Of course if heavily oversubscribed that might be a differentiator?

 Application may only be made for one of the above categories and this should be your normal graded role. (Note
the Pit and Startline groups have been merged for 2012).
 You must have marshalled at least 12 days in your nominated duty to be considered for selection.
 Applications will not be accepted from marshals who have trainee status at the time of application.

The signature criteria is an interesting one. Of the many locals that marshalled for yesterdays Singapore Grand Prix, I wonder how many of them would be qualified, or is it one rule for one country and one rule for another? Be interested to know.

Bladders........

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by M Greenslade

is it one rule for one country and one rule for another?

No question of it. Number of meetings criteria is not FIA. Presume it's based on number of potential marshals and trying to ensure the best quality and recent experience. Other countries may be happy to accept anybody, but for the biggest (in terms of tv spectators) motorsport event of the year in Britain I'm very happy that we're choosier.

It's no coincidence that the British GP is usually a shining example of how to do it properly.

[deadsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Woolley

It's no coincidence that the British GP is usually a shining example of how to do it properly.

We are are lucky in having a large number of trained and experienced marshals in UK. In fact we have too many for everyone to marshal the F1 each year.

'Doing it properly' at the GP is no different to how we work the remaining weekends of the season. The GP is probably one of the only events where we have 'everyone' on post we'd like. There's no need to 'make do' with low numbers etc, so of course it should be about perfect!

In regards overseas F1 events, now that many are in places that don't have such a tradition of club racing, it's going to be harder to recruit experienced marshals.

I was able to marshal at the first Singapore GP in '08 - purely off my own back. The marshalling was organised by CAMS (like BARC did at Abu Dhabi) - and they had large numbers of people there to train/mentor/lead the locals. The local marshals came to the race with very little or no experience of motorsport or marshalling. It was interesting to see the faces on post when the F1 cars came out for the first time!

If the only race you get to marshal each year is F1, you're never going to get the trackside experience that F1 really needs or expects. However, if you have nowhere else to marshal you're stuck.

[NewYankee01]

Originally Posted by deadsquirrel

We are are lucky in having a large number of trained and experienced marshals in UK. In fact we have too many for everyone to marshal the F1 each year.

'Doing it properly' at the GP is no different to how we work the remaining weekends of the season. The GP is probably one of the only events where we have 'everyone' on post we'd like. There's no need to 'make do' with low numbers etc, so of course it should be about perfect!

In regards overseas F1 events, now that many are in places that don't have such a tradition of club racing, it's going to be harder to recruit experienced marshals.

I was able to marshal at the first Singapore GP in '08 - purely off my own back. The marshalling was organised by CAMS (like BARC did at Abu Dhabi) - and they had large numbers of people there to train/mentor/lead the locals. The local marshals came to the race with very little or no experience of motorsport or marshalling. It was interesting to see the faces on post when the F1 cars came out for the first time!

If the only race you get to marshal each year is F1, you're never going to get the trackside experience that F1 really needs or expects. However, if you have nowhere else to marshal you're stuck.

fair enough but imagine in the uk you have someone who's never done an event before being able to marshal at silverstone gp, youd be a bit horrified, its not the locals fault but its a real shame the malaysians cant do their event, theyve got a helluva lot more motorsport going for them, world famous drivers and teams, few more circuits, and an established 10 year+ gp...

[NewYankee01]

Originally Posted by M Greenslade

The signature criteria is an interesting one. Of the many locals that marshalled for yesterdays Singapore Grand Prix, I wonder how many of them would be qualified, or is it one rule for one country and one rule for another? Be interested to know.

Bladders........

ive wondered that, i gather they were the same as when abu dhabi started, a lot of aussie marshals might have trained the malaysians as (as they have soon type of motorsport following and is the closest) or indonesians themselves up or they may have just had a lot from sepang? are the marshal's who do sepang qualified,

there was one blog i was reading before i started marshalling, i dont know if its the way its worded but this may clear up just how much experience they have

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/10/0...re-grand-prix/