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18 Aug 2013, 16:26 (Ref:3291356) | #1 | ||
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What are the types of various stock cars.
In sports car racing, it is easy to distinguish various cars by the rule books they are built for....GTE, GT3, LMP1....ect ect.
But what are the various formulas for stock cars and how are they governed? I'm guessing it is overly sponsored based because this is what i gather thus far. Big 3. Sprint Cup - Sprint Cup Car Nationwide - Nationwide car Camping World Truck Series - Camping World Truck But what about the rest? What are the cars that compete in these? K&N Pro East & West Series Canadian Tire Series Automobile Racing Club of America - ARCA Champion Auto Racing - CRA American Speed Association - ASA |
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18 Aug 2013, 18:18 (Ref:3291411) | #2 | ||
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'Noty quite sure of the question or of your understanding. Sponsors of the series (which as you stated above, also name the series) do not establish the rules for the cars; the sanctioning bodies do.
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18 Aug 2013, 19:22 (Ref:3291426) | #3 | ||
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I found ASA calls their cars Super late Models. What are the cars in ARCA called and the other series i mentioned?
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18 Aug 2013, 19:28 (Ref:3291430) | #4 | ||
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Not a big "stock car" fan so I'm not up on what they're called.
'Suggest you go to the individual sites for your answers. 'Curious, what does it matter what they're called...more important is the rules they have to build and run by... edit: will be sending you a pm. Last edited by jimclark; 18 Aug 2013 at 19:37. |
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18 Aug 2013, 21:12 (Ref:3291474) | #5 | ||
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Simple really.
From the lowest type of Stock Car you have the local short track Late Models. However there are two types of Late Model; Super Late Model (Pro Stock) and your basic Late Model. Pictured here is Chase Elliot's Super Late Model. And Pictured here is Brian Hoar driving a Basic Late Model The main differences for each type of Late Model being engine size and power output, tire size and width among a few other minor discrepancies. Most Basic Late Model stock cars around North America are required to use sealed Ford/Chevy Crate motors (~350-400hp) based on their touring series regulations or their local track's rulebook. Basic Late Models usually run an incredibly thin tire (Around 8"in.) and the manufacture varies between Goodyear, Hoosier, and American Racer. Super Late Models run a much wider tire increasing the contact patch, whilst the engine is much more powerful (~650hp). Next you have the old Generation 4 NASCAR Cup/Nationwide cars currently used by the K&N series and the ARCA series. Pictured here are some K&N Cars rounding a bend. Pictured Here is the start of an ARCA Race. Although both of these series use the exact same chassis and bodies they both have their minor differences. ARCA Cars have a much higher power output from the motor (~850hp Unrestricted) but use a much larger rear spoiler (about +5-10" in.) as compared to the K&N cars. Whilst the K&N Series uses a 5.4L V8 with an output of ~650hp Unrestricted with a much smaller rear spoiler. Next up is the Nationwide Series. They departed from the old Gen. 4 Bodies full time for the start of the 2011 Season and introduced their own updated car. Chassis: Steel tube frame with safety roll cage, must be NASCAR standards. Engine Displacement: 5.8 L (5,800 cc) (358 in³) Pushrod V8. Transmission: 4 Speed Manual. Weight: 3,200 lb (1,451 kg) Minimum (without driver); 3,400 lb (1,542 kg) Power Output: 650–700 hp . Torque: 520 ft-lb. As for the cream of the crop, the Spring Cup; they replaced their Generation 5 Car of Tomorrow body with the new Generation 6 bodies for the start of the 2013 Nascar Season. Chassis: Steel tube frame with safety roll cage, must meet NASCAR standards. Engine Displacement: 5.86 L (5,860 cc) (358 in³) Pushrod V8. Transmission: 4 Speed Manual. Weight: 3,200 lb (1,451 kg) (without driver, fuel); 3,400 lb (1,542 kg) (with driver, fuel). Power Output: ~865 hp (645 kW) unrestricted; 445 hp (332 kW) with restrictor plate (2007). Torque: 530 ft-lb Hope this helps. Last edited by Nick Woodbury; 18 Aug 2013 at 21:23. |
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21 Nov 2013, 22:54 (Ref:3334976) | #7 | ||
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If you have time and want to find some interesting info, sit down by your computer for a few hundred hours whilst typing in: NASCAR-- grand national, late model, modified stock cars history. Then do the similar thing such as: USAC-- stock cars ARCA--stock cars ASA--stock cars West coast-- stock car racing. You will find out, eventual how it got to where it is, but also how interesting it once was. |
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For me Gen 4.
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26 Nov 2013, 13:18 (Ref:3336939) | #10 | ||
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Gen 2 and 3 for me.
Gen 2 were the best looking (i mean just look at that '73 Charger!) and Gen 3 were the fastest until Nascar (quite rightly i think) shat themselves and slowed em down. Must have been great being at the track in the Gen 2 era. You could tell what car was what even without a number on the side. Only now are we almost geting back to that with the Gen 6. |
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Upon pondering on this, I think there are really only two types of stock cars, and this bled on down to othr sanctions also.
Pre-Taurus and post Taurus. I do have to admire GM, to a degree, for creating the fwd Monte Carlo for the NASCAR tracks, even if it was a miserable failure. By then Big Bill was dead that the remaining France boys were clueless little rich twits. |
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The street car was a fwd crapwagon but its body shell was, poorly, designed for NASCAR.
In addendum, while the Taurus was straw that made stock cars a total farce, the rule that allowed them to run a non-stock wheelbase is actually just as bad. |
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5 Dec 2013, 05:12 (Ref:3340324) | #16 | ||
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Understood alla that. 'Just thought I missed sumpin' re: a fwd car for the track... I didn't think I missed such a thing.
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11 Dec 2013, 21:43 (Ref:3342891) | #17 | ||
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There are a lot under late models too. Then there are the modifieds...
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