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31 Jan 2018, 14:32 (Ref:3797167) | #1 | ||
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The new great grid girl debate
Grid girls are no longer. See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42890261
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Wonder what focus group they'll pander to next?
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31 Jan 2018, 16:51 (Ref:3797203) | #3 | |
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They shouldn't change the group. They should continue to "pander" to those that they think are the future fans. I assume businesses "pander" to their customers all the time. Or better said... listen to their wants.
Clearly all customers may not agree. Richard |
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31 Jan 2018, 16:59 (Ref:3797205) | #4 | ||
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So some people have lost, albeit part time but fun, jobs for no really good reason.
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31 Jan 2018, 17:15 (Ref:3797209) | #5 | |
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The grid girl discussion thread ran its course and eventually was locked (it became the trainwreck I knew it would). I don't want this thread to turn into that discussion. So... No more comments from me on this topic. It is just rehashing that thread anyhow. Everyone is not going to agree.
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Understand how the left works. When they can't win the argument they have to ban, regulate, tax, oppress, subvert, suppress. They proclaim "equality", "tolerance" and "diversity", but they are anything but equal, tolerant or diverse.
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Basically any political affiliation looking to chase "cheap"votes, and / or scared of aggravating a lunatic fringe. Current fad, feminism, denigrating anything male and belittling any woman who dares to disagree with the miserable feminist view of the human race. News flash, men and woman are different, and some of them actually like one another! This stupid political correctness is just sad for everybody. |
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Now they've banned the grid girls, the teams could have one of the pit crew stand by the car. It keeps it in the family. |
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Not to keep banging on about this, but grid girls are not banned. There is no sporting or technical regulation outlawing grid girls. They are contractors to F1, and they are simply not coming back. If I stop hiring a builder as a contractor, builders are not banned. This happens to, literally, thousands of contractors in every industry every year. |
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they can get "proper" jobs in motorsport to get involved like the rest of us do. |
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So bunch of men have decided that women aren't allowed to do a paid job of their own choice, who have effectively banned women doing something they wished and wanted to do of their own free will. That is good news for equality???
You only have to read the comments posted under that BBC Sport article link to see this was not a good decision. 99.9% of the comments are against this decision. |
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there’s no point in bothering to discuss this any more tbh. nobody is going to change their viewpoint no matter how much energy everyone wastes on it. as someone on twitter said, remember it’s not The Feminists that have decided to stop booking models for work, it’s a bunch of middle aged conservative men. the same ones who are umming and ahhing over whether to change race start times |
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a sport (f1 is its own sport at this point) choosing not to use women as decoration is a small step towards saying that women aren't objects or decoration for the entertainment of men. fwiw, f1 probably employs several times more grid girls at any given race than there are women working in engineering and car build at the circuit at the same time. including the support series. |
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They probably don't want "proper" jobs in the sport.
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Just scrap F1 and rename Formula E as F1, they already have, jaguar, citroen,bmw,audi,porsche and mercedes, all they need now is Ferrari and the world is at their feet
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That's strike one for Liberty Media. Absolutely stupid decision.
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Liberty Media haven't done this for anything noble, like equality reasons, they have made this change because they are worried about their bottom line (pardon the pun). Public perception matters and if that affects their brand, then that means lower revenues. They have just stuck their finger in the air and seen which way the wind is blowing on this very topic, personally I don’t blame them for taking the decision, however deep down I don’t think it’s been done for the right reasons. I think if the women involved enjoy it and aren’t being coerced into it, I don’t personally see the problem. It’s a modelling job at the end of the day, are they going to ban modelling now as a “profession”?
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