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Old 8 Apr 2018, 02:34 (Ref:3813828)   #1
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Williams: Do they have a spare tub?
"A lot of things wrong with Williams" Lance Stroll.

http://www.f1reader.com/news/william...-stroll-193485

What is Williams end game?

They sacked their best driver, found two pay drivers, and they now look destined to prop up the rear of the grid for 2018 on their Bahrain qualifying form.

What is Williams end game?
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 02:50 (Ref:3813834)   #2
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 03:45 (Ref:3813852)   #3
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Lance Stroll seemed very unhappy when interviewed. Not with his own performances if you can call them that, but with the team and car.
With Force India being allegedly on the market, and of uncertain future, cue Force Canada rumours for 2019.....
Not sure what contractual arrangement exists with Williams though so purely a conspiracy theory at this stage.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 05:15 (Ref:3813870)   #4
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Not sure what else could have been expected.

They have drivers with close to zero set up ability at this level, and a questionable tech director leading.
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 10:33 (Ref:3814337)   #5
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Not sure what else could have been expected.

They have drivers with close to zero set up ability at this level, and a questionable tech director leading.
Paddy Lowe? I recall reading Frank Dernie describing PL as "probably the cleverest guy he ever hired."
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 15:23 (Ref:3814430)   #6
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Paddy Lowe? I recall reading Frank Dernie describing PL as "probably the cleverest guy he ever hired."
You’re assuming that’s a definite compliment?
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Old 10 Apr 2018, 11:12 (Ref:3814631)   #7
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You’re assuming that’s a definite compliment?
I do know that Frank Dernie never really enjoyed being a manager type. Far too interested in getting the hands dirty. So maybe he hadn't hired that many over the years, largely leaving that to others to build them technical team around and beneath him.
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Old 14 Apr 2018, 03:58 (Ref:3815345)   #8
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Not sure what else could have been expected.

They have drivers with close to zero set up ability at this level, and a questionable tech director leading.
It was pretty annoying listening to Anthony Davidson try to defend Williams' decisions to hire Stroll and Sirotkin during commentary of first practice yesterday.
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Old 14 Apr 2018, 08:10 (Ref:3815375)   #9
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Interestingly only 0.8 seconds between Sirotkin and Lewis in Q1.
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It was pretty annoying listening to Anthony Davidson try to defend Williams' decisions to hire Stroll and Sirotkin during commentary of first practice yesterday.
Which was strange, Ant should know better than most that talent doesn't always mean opportunity.
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Unfortunately this looked likely to happen as soon as they announced their driver line up, which is the worse one on the grid. They need to start thinking about getting a decent no.1 driver for next season to sit along side $troll or $irotken. That is just the start. There is obviously something wrong with the car itself as well.

It saddens me.
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A plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a Williams.
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What makes Stroll and Sirotkin such bad drivers?
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What makes Stroll and Sirotkin such bad drivers?
Is it the drivers, one is an ex Euro F3 Champion , the other was competitive in GP2. They should try Kubica a bit more, at the moment I think it is 50/50 drivers and car.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 17:12 (Ref:3814076)   #15
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The fact that they were made to look silly by Sauber says it all.... They've been in the doldums for a while now, but right now they looked positively beached......
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Very funny...
Athough I still respect them for the FW07...
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Athough I still respect them for the FW07...
i do as well.

that was a time when the only chance they had to upset to order was to swing for the fences, take a path that no one else was on, and hope that they could find a silver bullet with which to stop the rise of the manufacturers.

that it didnt work out (and maybe it was to big of a chance to have ever worked) isnt really a problem for me.

imo though, they dont take those chances any more. whether it be with drivers, race strategies, or design philosophies.

they are kind of a bland team now and that is really shows in their goals, aspirations, and now their results.

top down there is no inspiration left here.
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TRH scoring good point and Sauber sneaking some point was disaster for Williams today, they would not have expected to be on zero and already 12 points behind TR.




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I’m afraid to say Williams might just have gone the way of Tyrrell and Lotus, a once great team struggling to hold on. I’d love to be proved wrong, but it seems like that will be the way
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Yes, its called Stroll is going to buy the team.

He pretty much already has. Let them have it,
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its crazy to think that you can achieve so little with a mercedes engine (and gearbox?) .. i mean how bad that car needs to be?
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