Vettel To The Metal. Vettel/Webber/Hamilton incident.

[Hazza]

Robbed Mark Webber of atleast a decent podium position, and dare say, a win.

Terrible effort from Vettel.

[Chatters]

Love the serve he gave Vettel when talking to Louise!!

[Adam43]

Yes, rookie mistake.

However a reason to hate Vettel, after things have settled, nah.

[ralf fan]

Sebastian was mighty impressive up until that point really. Shouldn't take that away from the young man he drove well.

[mjstallard]

Indeed, the guy is only young and is very very inexperienced. He'd done bloody well to get that far up the field in the first place...besides, Hamilton said that he aired some concern about Webber's erratic driving behind the safety car

[karimbo]

Originally Posted by mjstallard

Indeed, the guy is only young and is very very inexperienced. He'd done bloody well to get that far up the field in the first place...besides, Hamilton said that he aired some concern about Webber's erratic driving behind the safety car

It seems that Lewis was affraid of... Webber!! So what did REALLY happen?

[1200Datto27]

Originally Posted by mjstallard

besides, Hamilton said that he aired some concern about Webber's erratic driving behind the safety car

And Lewis wasn't constantly braking/accelerating in strange places?

[SkaifeHRT]

Originally Posted by mjstallard

Indeed, the guy is only young and is very very inexperienced. He'd done bloody well to get that far up the field in the first place...besides, Hamilton said that he aired some concern about Webber's erratic driving behind the safety car

Man this Hamilton kid has got a nerve on him. Look at the extremely dangerous tactics he was using on the restarts and under the safety car and then he has the nerve to criticise Webber? I can only hope that things finally catch up with him and deny this smug rookie the title.

[Airhead]

Craziness, to be rewarded with a sucker punch after risking it all in those conditions. Webber deserves better.

[Adam43]

I'm waiting for the DotR thread to vote for Webber, it won't make up for it, but he was excellent today.

[duke_toaster]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

I'm waiting for the DotR thread to vote for Webber, it won't make up for it, but he was excellent today.

There's a clear winner for that one for sure - Bernd Maylander

[andy_b]

LOL! seriously, he did well to keep the safety car on the road!

[Chatters]

I'm struggling to post sensibly here- I admit that this is because I'm an Aussie and I wholeheartedly support Webber. Vettel comes across to me as an arrogant little kid who thinks success and fame will come to him. Then there's Webber, who has had to work bloody hard in 5 years of Formula 1 to achieve only two podiums.

Now, to Vettel, this race won't mean much. He's 19 or whatever so one mistake at this age, in a wet race with poor visibility (which I'm sure he's going to blame when he's interviewed about the accident) won't make him seem like a kid who can't handle the pressure (another excuse is that a double world champ also spun out). For sure, Vettel will be disappointed about not finishing what could have been third, but I bet he knows that more opportunities will come to him.

But for Webber, this will be gutwrenching. He has worked hard for 5 years, and the one time he looks like he could win a Grand Prix, some 19 year old with nothing to lose hits him in the back. What motivation does that give him to keep going? Even he must be feeling pretty down after something like this.

So call it bias, but I have lost a lot of respect for Vettel after this race...

[CamF1]

Originally Posted by Chatters

Now, to Vettel, this race won't mean much. He's 19 or whatever so one mistake at this age, in a wet race with poor visibility (which I'm sure he's going to blame when he's interviewed about the accident) won't make him seem like a kid who can't handle the pressure (another excuse is that a double world champ also spun out). For sure, Vettel will be disappointed about not finishing what could have been third, but I bet he knows that more opportunities will come to him.

I'm not so sure, they showed Vettel in the pits and he appeared to be crying or at least with his head in his arms. That aside, I'm sure he'd be rather ****ed off for missing the podium and screwing up Mark's race. That said we didn't get proper audio from the Vettel interview with Louise so I don't know how he was after.

[Bellof]

while I understand his anger, webber should just shut up. lewis mentioned in the press conference, that he narrowly avoided a collision with him during that same saftey car period. the incident is a shame for webber, vettel and red bull, but in these conditions stuff like that happens...

[Super Hans]

Originally Posted by Bellof

while I understand his anger, webber should just shut up...

I'm not jumping on the Vettel-bashing bandwagon by any means, but when you've raced through diabolical conditions (and illness) to find yourself in 2nd place and a driver from what is effectively your b-team rams you under safety car conditions, you're bound to lose your cool. Webber is a human being after all.

Credit to Vettel for apologising and admitting some fault, although he did seem to be criticising Lewis slightly. Perhaps the rules need to be changed re: safety cars, because in that period where the SC is about to pull into the pits and the leader takes control of the field, brake-testing seems to be the order of the day.

[Charlies]

I feel sorry for Webber, but Vettel impressed this weekend. Qualifying eighth, leading the race and being in contention for a podium. Sure he made a rookie's mistake, but give him a break he's only done five races.

That sort of accident was inevitable given the poor visibility and the way Hamilton was backing the cars up before the restart. He didn't do it intentionally.

[GTRMagic]

Mr Vettel to be rested for China in punishment?





Not happy Jan!

[Bellof]

that's why I said, I understand his anger.
but he nearly took out hamilton in the same situation, and could so have decided the wdc. so maybe he should take a look at himself, before/instead bashing vettel...

[Super Hans]

Originally Posted by Bellof

that's why I said, I understand his anger.
but he nearly took out hamilton in the same situation, and could so have decided the wdc. so maybe he should take a look at himself, before/instead bashing vettel...

Webber didn't hit Hamilton. That's the crucial difference.

[zac510]

Sounds like the Australian coverage didn't get a replay of the interview with Vettel by Louise. He sounded sorry for his mistake but it doesn't get Mark back on the track.

[Bellof]

yeah, but that was not down to him, it was hamilton who avoided it...;-)

[Super Hans]

Originally Posted by Bellof

yeah, but that was not down to him, it was hamilton who avoided it...;-)

I give up.

You're right, it's all Mark Webber's fault. I hope Vettel's gives him a piece of his mind.

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by Bellof

yeah, but that was not down to him, it was hamilton who avoided it...;-)

And you know this how?

[zac510]

Webber bounced off Hamilton's cloak of invincibility causing him to brake and collide with Vettel. Duh!