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Old 31 Oct 2006, 06:11 (Ref:1754081)   #1
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Supercars out, real Supercars in at AGP?

The V8 Supercars wont be at Albert Park next year, but according to one of the men behind the Australian GT Championship the FIA GT3 will.
In an interview on tonights episode of In Pit Lane Terry Little says that Stephan Rattel has signed a deal with the AGP board for the exotic sportscars to become a major support category at next years race.
A spokesperson for the AGP refused to comment saying that no announcements or confirmation of any of the on track event will be announced until the official launch on November 13.
The interview will be posted on the In Pit Lane website ASAP.
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Old 31 Oct 2006, 07:44 (Ref:1754119)   #2
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Cool, can't wait to see that interview. Would be awesome to see the GT3's there!
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Old 31 Oct 2006, 12:42 (Ref:1754366)   #3
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I was aware that it may happen about a month ago. I was told there would be a race at the AGP and at Bathurst but have not heard anything in last few weeks.
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I was at the Silverstone race, and my thoughts then were 'at last'. Sportscar racing as it should be. Exotic looking, fantastic sounding cars running in huge packs and changing position almost every corner. Brilliant stuff.

They'll find Melbourne a little confined, but if the standards have been maintained they'll be a real treat.
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The interview with Terry Little is now up on the In Pit Lane podcast. You can either subscribe via iTunes or go direct to feed://www.videobomb.com/rss/users/show/inpitlane
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Old 31 Oct 2006, 23:15 (Ref:1754828)   #6
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Now a prediction!!!!!!

The attendances will fall away dramatically for the meeting and Big Red will come out and find all the excuses in the world!!

Adelaide went through a "lull" in the 1990's and that's when the SA Goivernment got disinterested and of course we all know what happened!

So if the VIC Governemnt get sick and tired of under-writing an event, it will GO

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Now a prediction!!!!!!

The attendances will fall away dramatically for the meeting and Big Red will come out and find all the excuses in the world!!

Adelaide went through a "lull" in the 1990's and that's when the SA Goivernment got disinterested and of course we all know what happened!

So if the VIC Governemnt get sick and tired of under-writing an event, it will GO

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I like predictions and yours is interesting...

Perhaps if it turns out to be true Sydney may just end up with its Homebush race with F1 and Supercars. I hope Morris is reading this.
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Now a prediction!!!!!!

The attendances will fall away dramatically for the meeting and Big Red will come out and find all the excuses in the world!!

Adelaide went through a "lull" in the 1990's and that's when the SA Goivernment got disinterested and of course we all know what happened!

So if the VIC Governemnt get sick and tired of under-writing an event, it will GO

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Mike, the government didn't get sick of it, The opposition were using the cost of the event to stick it to the Government, even though the event was good for the state. Politians will use anything at their disposal to make the other side look bad. Then when the Vic government drove up to Bernie's door with a truck load of money he used the bickering as an excuse to move the event to Melbourne.
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Old 1 Nov 2006, 11:38 (Ref:1755186)   #9
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Mike, the government didn't get sick of it, The opposition were using the cost of the event to stick it to the Government, even though the event was good for the state. Politians will use anything at their disposal to make the other side look bad. Then when the Vic government drove up to Bernie's door with a truck load of money he used the bickering as an excuse to move the event to Melbourne.
After Bannon went Arnold was not greatly interested and did not seek to renew the contract with Bernie. big red saw what was on and with jeff's blessing got the event.

Arnold was more interested in Spanish language than a F1 race!!

Significant numbers were keen on the tintops at F1 Adelaide.

It was the Adelaide Race Format that Melbourne has followed quite closely in format. The V8 tintops have an important role to play to "infill" the program as there is less F1 cars track time now than in Adelaide's time

BTW, how much did F1 lose this year??

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Why would attendences drop so dramatically mmciau ?
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Why would attendences drop so dramatically mmciau ?
I guess he is one of those who thinks that if V8 Supercars aren't there nobody will turn up.
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He thinks the world revolves around V8's

It does, but they are 2.4 litre's and rev to 20,000
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Old 1 Nov 2006, 02:12 (Ref:1754897)   #13
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I think that is a great move. The GT3 series is a much closer fit to F1 than V8 supercars ever were...I hope it works well for them...
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Presumebly the Australian GT Championship cars will fill the grid out at this event, as it will be a non-championship event for the Europeans.

It is mentioned in Autosport that the deal is for 25 European-based GT3 cars to make an appearance for four 10-lap races, the last of which will be on Sunday morning.
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Old 1 Nov 2006, 09:40 (Ref:1755091)   #15
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Yeah hopefully this will work as an incentive for Australian GT regulars to upgrade to a GT3 quicker.

Clipsal, AGP, BIMF, A1 GP, 500 km Sandown enduro plus the CAMS series makes an attractive proposition.
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Clipsal, AGP, BIMF, A1 GP, 500 km Sandown enduro plus the CAMS series makes an attractive proposition.
You are not wrong there racer.

Hopefully some of the European teams that come over here next March don't actually intend on taking the cars back home again............. and instead sell a couple to locals.......

It would be great to see a couple of Astons in our Championship.
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Will Carrera Cup continue on the V8 Program? Carrera Cup seems to be not as vibrant as it once was and i don't know what happened to the promised 25 cars. Might be a bit like V8 Supercars and we have less cars each year.
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[QUOTE=pete55]Will Carrera Cup continue on the V8 Program? Carrera Cup seems to be not as vibrant as it once was and i don't know what happened to the promised 25 cars. Might be a bit like V8 Supercars and we have less cars each year.[/Q


A couple of licences vouched for this year fell thru because of funding issues at the last minute and the huge growth of the Development series attracted a few potential customers away from Carrera. That said I still think the Porsche series is a good one and a very good alternative if not running a Supercar.
The Development series has benifeted substantially from the extra number of rounds it has recently had on the main game program.
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Isnt that old hat that the V8s wouldn't be at the F1 GP next year........... Bring on the F1s!!! We'll be there V8s or not...
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The real strength of Carrera Cup is that it has attracted a good number of young hard chargers not the Gentleman drivers + Jim and Peter that seemed to be the lot of Porsche racing pre Carrera Cup.Back on topic FIAGT will be fantastic at the AGP although I wish at least one of the races was a fair bit longer than 10 laps.I hope the field Ratel brings is top quality in terms of both drivers and cars.
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Any chance of the GT3's showing up at the BIMF in 07? A AUSGT/FIAGT3 3hour race on saturday afternoon finishing on sunset be pretty special.
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Presumebly the Australian GT Championship cars will fill the grid out at this event, as it will be a non-championship event for the Europeans
How do you know it will be non-championship? Besides, AusGT couldn't, see below.

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Any chance of the GT3's showing up at the BIMF in 07? A AUSGT/FIAGT3 3hour race on saturday afternoon finishing on sunset be pretty special.
The AusGT have an exclusive contract to be support to V8 Supercars (which didn't seem to bother anyone when it was announced - I thought it was a terrible move).

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So, can anyone tell me if the Procar series Monaro's qualify to run in the GT3 class??

Would certainly put some local interest in the event.
Isn't that a picture of the Bathurst 24H Monaro? THAT certainly wouldn't qualify! GT3 is close to production spec.
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How do you know it will be non-championship? Besides, AusGT couldn't, see below.


The AusGT have an exclusive contract to be support to V8 Supercars (which didn't seem to bother anyone when it was announced - I thought it was a terrible move).


Isn't that a picture of the Bathurst 24H Monaro? THAT certainly wouldn't qualify! GT3 is close to production spec.
The proposed exclusive agreement to support V8 Supercars fell over some time ago-see press release on gtchampionship.com.au
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The proposed exclusive agreement to support V8 Supercars fell over some time ago-see press release on gtchampionship.com.au
Oh, fantastic! I had no idea. Now I know why its been mentioned in relation to the BIMF.
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How do you know it will be non-championship? Besides, AusGT couldn't, see below.
Ratel said so. Aus GT can and probably will. Supports at BIMF and A1 GP have been announced already.


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The AusGT have an exclusive contract to be support to V8 Supercars (which didn't seem to bother anyone when it was announced - I thought it was a terrible move).
It was, thankfully that contract didnt last for long.

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If no bankability in anyones claimed crowd figures then an debate as to wether one is bigger than the other can only really be gauged by being present at each of them and walking around the event as well around the city or town of the event.
That is just as subjective as those who run the events.

Common sense is also a useful tool in such a scenario.


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The AGP as usual will be a great event and the GT3 races will be good particulary for diehards but I am sure the crowds will drop with no V8's and Walker will deny it. And the minority (see V8 HATERS) will deny along with him
Why are you sure the crowds will be down ? Fans will still get to see F1 and a quality support. The same value they got before.
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