[WTCC] Round 19 & 20 at Macau (20 November)

kmchow · 3 Oct 2005, 01:51 (Ref:1422408)

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Originally Posted by E46

Very good races. I have to say Giovanardi did a superb second race, however title chances are more difficult for him now in my opinion. Macau is a BMW track usually, and Müller and Priaulx have a good advantage.

It may sound negative but is Macau really a BMW track? Or does BMW seem to always just field more cars than everyone else? They kinda overwhelm all the other makes? Having more number of cars increases your chances of winning?

**FIRE** · 3 Oct 2005, 16:40 (Ref:1422985)

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Originally Posted by Monkey Head

i am quite interested in this,too.
in last year BMW just won Seat for few seconds,even though SCHNITZER have much of data about macau(for sure not all are usful in case it's in first Super2000 race in macau).
But in SP age Carly have beated work team+driver Alfa 147,JAS Civic and Vic Lee 307.....

It's a shame Carly (with support of Watson's Water) will not race at Macau. I think they are the most succesful team of the last 5 or 10 years (correct me if I am wrong).

BTW I have made a Macau topic.

Hazard · 6 Oct 2005, 21:34 (Ref:1425745)

Usually it's not shown, I believe this is the first time it will be.

Heck, they're showing the ETCC (

) race

Alfa Fan · 7 Oct 2005, 17:21 (Ref:1426665)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

Usually it's not shown, I believe this is the first time it will be

As others have said, its never been a championship race before.

alfan · 6 Oct 2005, 22:13 (Ref:1425770)

Usually it wasn't World Champioship race

ETCC from Vallelunga is live on Eurosport 2

**FIRE** · 7 Oct 2005, 10:48 (Ref:1426241)

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Originally Posted by alfan

Usually it wasn't World Champioship race

That's why I expect it will be live this time. MotoGP is also live if it's in the early morning or in the evening.

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Originally Posted by alfan

ETCC from Vallelunga is live on Eurosport 2

...and probably a 5 minutes review on Eurosport 1 at Sunday evening.

Valker · 8 Oct 2005, 21:30 (Ref:1427652)

map

**FIRE** · 7 Oct 2005, 17:21 (Ref:1426664)

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On Monday, JAS Motorsport remained in Valencia to give Simon Harrison, who will join Adriano De Micheli in Macau, the chance to get familiar with the Honda Accord and the team. The Briton completed 30 laps around the Spanish track, with impressive times; he was clocked in 1:43.9 with very used tyres, equivalent to a potential 1:42:5 with new tyres, which would have been good for a top-five position on the starting grid.

"I am very much pleased with the car," Harrison commented. "This is the first time I drive a competitive Super 2000, and one of the few drives this year at all, as I have only done some races in the Asian Porsche Cup. The Accord is very sensitive to set-up changes, and very effective in any part of the circuit. I do look forward to a highly competitive race in Macau."

Source: WTCC Media

P.Cummins · 8 Oct 2005, 18:17 (Ref:1427485)

I've never seen the Macau track before. I know its a street circuit, and that means its possibly tight. As long as it produces a good finale, I don't mind.

Is the track in China?

rustyfan · 10 Oct 2005, 11:12 (Ref:1429449)

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Originally Posted by P.Cummins

I've never seen the Macau track before.

You're in for a treat, as Macau is, IMHO, one of the best street-circuits in the world

Check [this link] for a map of the 6.2km track.

Gil Abobeleira · 10 Oct 2005, 11:23 (Ref:1429466)

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Originally Posted by rustyfan

You're in for a treat, as Macau is, IMHO, one of the best street-circuits in the world

Check [this link] for a map of the 6.2km track.

In this days, the best without doubt

(and only possible in a country with, let us say, a diferent view about life and society

)

**FIRE** · 8 Oct 2005, 18:24 (Ref:1427497)

The track is on the island Macau, which is a former Portugese colony but now part of China.

Gil Abobeleira · 8 Oct 2005, 21:07 (Ref:1427627)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

The track is on the island Macau, which is a former Portugese colony but now part of China.

Macau is no island

P.Cummins · 8 Oct 2005, 19:05 (Ref:1427550)

I see. I've never heard of that island. I only knew the name as a racetrack. I'll be looking forward to watching it.

**FIRE** · 8 Oct 2005, 21:10 (Ref:1427629)

Not?

Dani Filth · 8 Oct 2005, 22:50 (Ref:1427697)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Not?

thats hong kong

as for Macau . never saw a full race there . only small videos .. like those from last year

Gil Abobeleira · 9 Oct 2005, 20:17 (Ref:1428773)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Not?

Well, not quite, thought Macau has those 2 islands.

BTW (staying offtopic), the bridges we see in the backgroung on the start&finish straight are those that connect Macau with its islands.

Monkey Head · 10 Oct 2005, 08:54 (Ref:1429271)

provisional entry list:

1 Andy PRIAULX UK BMW TEAM UK BMW 320i
2 Gabriele TARQUINI ITA ALFA Romeo Autodelta Alfa Romeo 156
3 James THOMPSON UK ALFA Romeo Autodelta ALFA Romeo 156
4 Alessandro ZANARDI ITA BMW TEAM ITALY-SPAIN BMW 320i
5 Antonio GARCIA SPA BMW TEAM ITALY-SPAIN BMW 320i
6 Fabrizio GIOVANARDI ITA ALFA Romeo Autodelta ALFA Romeo 156
7 Augusto FARFUS jr. BRA ALFA Romeo Autodelta ALFA Romeo 156
8 Rickard RYDELL SWE SEAT Sport SEAT Leon
9 Jordi GENE SPA SEAT Sport SEAT Leon
10 Peter TERTING GER SEAT Sport SEAT Leon
14 Thomas KLENKE GER Hotfiel Sport Ford Focus
15 Thomas JAGER GER Hotfiel Sport Ford Focus
20 Tom CORONEL NED GR Asia SEAT Toledo Cupra
21 Robert HUFF UK Chevrolet Chevrolet Lacetti
22 Nicola LARINI ITA Chevrolet Chevrolet Lacetti
23 Alain MENU SUI Chevrolet Chevrolet Lacetti
27 Adriano De MICHELI ITA JAS Motorsport Honda Accord Euro R
28 Carl ROSENBLAD SWE Crawford Racing BMW 320i
30 Stefano D’ASTE ITA Proteam Motorsport BMW 320i
31 Giuseppe CIRO ITA Proteam Motorsport BMW 320i
32 Marc HENNERICI GER Wiechers-Sport BMW 320i
36 Sascha PLODERL AUT RS-Line IPZ Racing Ford Focus ST170
39 Simon HARRISON UK JAS Motorsport Honda Accord Euro R
41 Duncan HUISMAN NED BMW TEAM HOLLAND BMW 320i
42 Jorg MULLER GER BMW TEAM GERMANY BMW 320i
43 Dirk MULLER GER BMW TEAM GERMANY BMW 320i
44 James KAYE UK GR Asia SEAT Toledo Cupra
56 TBA TBA ALFA Romeo Autodelta ALFA Romeo 156
61 Paul POON HK Engstler Motorsport BMW 320i
62 Franz ENGSTLER GER Engstler Motorsport BMW 320i
63 Ratanakol PRUTIRAT THA Engstler Motorsport BMW 320i
64 Jody COSETENG PHL TBA BMW 320i

duncan huisman back yet again...may be sponsered by wastons?

**FIRE** · 10 Oct 2005, 11:18 (Ref:1429459)

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Originally Posted by Monkey Head

duncan huisman back yet again...may be sponsered by wastons?

Great! Which team? Carly Motors or i.e. RBM (Team UK)?

Monkey Head · 10 Oct 2005, 11:31 (Ref:1429479)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Great! Which team? Carly Motors or i.e. RBM (Team UK)?

Team Holland in list
Carly should be

Gil Abobeleira · 10 Oct 2005, 20:44 (Ref:1430051)

André Couto is doing Super-GT for Toyota.

Craner Curves · 10 Oct 2005, 13:42 (Ref:1429598)

Dubai wasn't live on Eurosport last year either was it? Although it was a Thursday race after all.

**FIRE** · 10 Oct 2005, 17:22 (Ref:1429818)

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Originally Posted by Monkey Head

yes
Ao Chi Hong-toyota altezza
Chan Sun San-honda integra DC5
however both of them are not FIA homolagted model.....

for sure Protons not S200 car
meanwhile they should be approved by ATCC
they may be a shame for ATCC that not allow protons on the gird while it is FIA sactioned.....
so i am interested on it too,let's find the answer on monday
(MG's story on ETCcup would give us some hints too)

From www.fiawtcc.com:

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Franz Engstler, who is comfortably leading the Asian Touring Car Championship (ATCC), will take part in the FIA WTCC final meeting in Macau. The first of the two races on the Guia track will also count as the ATCC final round.
At the wheel of an Engstler Motorsport BMW 320i, the 41 year old German has claimed 8 victories out of the 10 ATCC rounds held so far, which gave him a solid 55-point lead ahead of Malaysian driver Farique Hairuman, with 60 still to be awarded. ATCC last-but-one meeting will take place in Zhuhai, China, on October 23.

So Farique Hairuman (Proton) and others aren't allowed to start at Macau because their cars aren't S2000 or not FIA homologated. Isn't this strange? Organizing a championship and not allow some entrants to take part in one round. It's especially sour for Hairuman because he's still in the race for the championship.

Monkey Head · 11 Oct 2005, 12:14 (Ref:1430656)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

From www.fiawtcc.com:

So Farique Hairuman (Proton) and others aren't allowed to start at Macau because their cars aren't S2000 or not FIA homologated. Isn't this strange? Organizing a championship and not allow some entrants to take part in one round. It's especially sour for Hairuman because he's still in the race for the championship.

last-but-one meeting?
macau round is non-championship round?
shame

(and i am agree with you,very strange idneed)

**FIRE** · 11 Oct 2005, 14:21 (Ref:1430752)

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Originally Posted by Monkey Head

last-but-one meeting?
macau round is non-championship round?
shame

(and i am agree with you,very strange idneed)

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EVENTS
(provisional and subject to change)
Event 1 Races 1 & 2 May 14 - 15 Sepang International Circuit Malaysia
Event 2 Races 3 & 4 June 11 – 12 Bira Circuit Thailand
Event 3 Races 5 & 6 July 16 – 17 Goldenport Circuit China
Event 4 Races 7 & 8 August 6 – 7 Taebaek Circuit Korea
Event 5 Races 9 & 10 TBA TBA TBA
Event 6 Races 11 & 12 October 22-23 Zhuhai International Circuit China#
Event 7 Race 13 November 19 – 20 Guia Circuit, Macau China#**
* Subject to homologation of circuit
** This race will be run according to the WTCC regulations
# Subject to confirmation of commercial agreement

Source: www.afos.com

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