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Old 26 Aug 2004, 21:55 (Ref:1078580)   #1
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Richards fights former employer....

Can Team Dynamik take a trick this week?

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Seems Mr Richards is taking legal action against Team Dynamik for driving services fees not received....

... while the team is counter claiming for costs of cars damaged by Mr Richards while he was in their employ

$125k a year is a nice earner for a race driver too
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Old 26 Aug 2004, 22:26 (Ref:1078608)   #2
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Jeez, I hope they dont find out who the informer was last week, imagine that law suit
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Old 26 Aug 2004, 22:28 (Ref:1078610)   #3
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720 K for race car damage?

How much will dumbrell owe larry?
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Old 26 Aug 2004, 22:33 (Ref:1078616)   #4
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Old 26 Aug 2004, 23:44 (Ref:1078681)   #5
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Gee this industry is turning into a widfall for the legal eagles. Watch out TC you might be next.
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Old 26 Aug 2004, 23:54 (Ref:1078692)   #6
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 00:44 (Ref:1078710)   #7
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!!!!TD are a complete joke!!!!!!

First they don't pay a driver his wages, then they try to sue him for damages caused to the car & to top it off, they cheat!

If I was a fan of TD, I would change quick smart because they are a complete joke!! How embarrassing for everyone involved with the team… TD hang your head in shame.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 00:51 (Ref:1078713)   #8
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I guess we won't see Dale posting here for a while. I'm sure his legal eagles have told him to keep quiet about everything, lest he start another blow-up.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 01:11 (Ref:1078718)   #9
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It is shyte like this that is contributing to my apathy towards this category....
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 01:14 (Ref:1078723)   #10
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Doesn't it say, though, that something is wrong with the rules of the category in the first place if a team (any team) has to resort to this sort of thing?
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 01:22 (Ref:1078727)   #11
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From a legal perspective, TD have very little chance of a successful counter claim. Even if they could prove that the damage caused by Richards was intentional, they still have little hope.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 01:29 (Ref:1078729)   #12
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Unless there was a damage clause in the contract which I doubt.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 01:46 (Ref:1078740)   #13
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I am a TD fan, well was a TD fan untill this week. The sooner Dynamik is removed from the entry lists the better!

Seriously, the treatment given to the driver that could have made the difference in the team (J Richards) now spanning nearly a year after his initial employment on top of this cheating farce!

Simon Wills and Team Dynamik, you've just lost a fan!
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 01:48 (Ref:1078742)   #14
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If you were a driver you would have to seriously consider a Konica Minolta drive over a drive in #45 next year, if #45 exists next year.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 04:50 (Ref:1078797)   #15
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Crashes happen, so I don't think they have a leg to stand on.

That 2.5% of merchandise sales has to be worth something too as I know Dynamik was flogging as much junk as they could last year.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 07:37 (Ref:1078848)   #16
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we have not seen the white pointers yet .The sardines are only circling yet [the bait], bring on the big ones....
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Old 5 Jul 2005, 23:57 (Ref:1348348)   #17
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Jason Richards has won his court case against Team Dynamic .

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Old 27 Aug 2004, 08:08 (Ref:1078867)   #18
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In reality i would think the value of the team and the value of merchandise would be practically nothing at the moment.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 10:32 (Ref:1078970)   #19
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Unless there was a damage clause in the contract which I doubt.
You doubt incorrectly.

Drivers contracts these days often include all sorts of things, including damage clauses where the driver must contribute to repair costs arising from events caused by the driver.

Mr Richards seriously donald ducked the #45 car in NZ last year, and had other crash damage created at his own hand.

Quite how that drifts up to $720k is a question for the beancounters...
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 12:14 (Ref:1079090)   #20
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Wasn't the NZ crash the one where he collected the tyres? If so, I think that they would have more luck in suing the organisers for leaving a dangerous obstacle on the track.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 12:22 (Ref:1079102)   #21
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Depends how it is worded... if the driver is in control of the motor vehicle, and he instigates a crash not caused by mechanical failure, there could be an argument that this is the driver's fault to some degree....

... as ever, the devil is always found in the detail...
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 13:13 (Ref:1079153)   #22
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Imagine if the penalty that may be awarded to the transgressors (is that a word?), included a spell from the coming rounds?

If a team was unsure of how it was going to pay the $150K fine per car for not turning up, per meeting, as they could no longer afford to compete, there is the opportunity for said team to end up in a hole for $1.5Mil+.

A possable $250K fine is maybe a cheap way out, trade off some of the fine for a longer suspension from the championship, buy yourself more time to try and gain more sponsors.

What is the story with Holy Grail? Another ICS?
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 14:08 (Ref:1079187)   #23
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Surely a driver is insured for this type of thing, ie crashes, it is motorsport where crashes do happen and quite often. Team Dynamic are clutching at straws. Trouble seems to follow Mr.Wills.
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Old 27 Aug 2004, 23:59 (Ref:1079622)   #24
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Dynamik arent clutching at straws.... if a contract with another party states that recovery for damages can be claimed from the other party, and the costs involved are significant, why shouldnt they take the other party to court, to determine the validity of the contract, and therefore recover monies owed....

It is more likely than not that the situation will be settled on the court steps, but in the world of motorsport, machismo seems more important than money in the bank sometimes.

Holy Grail Wines is seriously messy.... the owner of that business is still locked up in a court battle with NAB for the control of his house, and a series of businesses which have cross claims and securities on this property, on crop liens, issues with the branding of the product in the first place.... an a-grade mess...

... so presumably thats why the brand is not on the car any more....
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Old 28 Aug 2004, 02:48 (Ref:1079682)   #25
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Simon Wills and Team Dynamik, you've just lost a fan!
Agreed Team Dynamik isn't too dynamic these days, but what has Simon Wills done wrong ?? Not flaming, just curious as to why you think he's in the sh!t ??

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