BTCC BTCC 2022 season discussion, News and Rumours!

crmalcolm · 30 Jun 2021, 09:31 (Ref:4058993)

Rounds-Date-Venue/Circuit
1,2,3-23/24 April-Donington Park (National)
4,5,6-14/15 May-Brands Hatch (Indy)
7,8,9-28/29 May-Thruxton
10,11,12-11/12 June-Oulton Park (Island)
13,14,15-25/26 June-Croft
16,17,18-30/31 July-Knockhill
19,20,21-13/14 August-Snetterton (300)
22,23,24-27/28 August-Thruxton
25,26,27-24/25 September-Silverstone (National)
28,29,30-8/9 October-Brands Hatch (Grand Prix)

S griffin · 30 Jun 2021, 10:09 (Ref:4058999)

Was going to say that was quick, but then remembered that due to the season starting late, we are already in June. Nice to see it mixed around a bit, although I wish they would use a second event at Donny, Oulton or Silverstone on a different layout, rather than a second Thruxton meeting again

CarfanLUFC · 30 Jun 2021, 10:14 (Ref:4059000)

I quite like Thruxton although there is a couple of other tracks I'd rather see get a 2nd date above it.

A 2nd Donington date could possibly use the full track? Or is that not possible with all the support races using that section as make shift garages?

Greem · 30 Jun 2021, 13:12 (Ref:4059025)

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Originally Posted by CarfanLUFC

A 2nd Donington date could possibly use the full track? Or is that not possible with all the support races using that section as make shift garages?

No, they use the paddock for that; on National Circuit days the Loop is used as the assembly area for support races. For big international meetings on the national circuit the return leg of the Loop is sometimes used for the TV trucks and ancillary bits and pieces.

S griffin · 30 Jun 2021, 10:18 (Ref:4059002)

Come to think about it, they could also use the Snetterton outer circuit

AnnoyedMoose · 30 Jun 2021, 13:48 (Ref:4059027)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Come to think about it, they could also use the Snetterton outer circuit

I may have my circuits mixed up but I seem to remember the last time they raced on the 200 rather than 300 it was such a boring race they said they wouldn't do it again.

S griffin · 30 Jun 2021, 15:20 (Ref:4059041)

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Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

I may have my circuits mixed up but I seem to remember the last time they raced on the 200 rather than 300 it was such a boring race they said they wouldn't do it again.

The series hasn’t used the 200 since the track got changed

thetool · 30 Jun 2021, 15:24 (Ref:4059043)

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Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

I may have my circuits mixed up but I seem to remember the last time they raced on the 200 rather than 300 it was such a boring race they said they wouldn't do it again.

That was when they used the full Oulton Park International layout that includes Shell Oil Bend rather than the usual Island layout.

CarfanLUFC · 30 Jun 2021, 10:22 (Ref:4059004)

Or a 2nd date at Oulton using one of the other layouts.

Sodemo · 30 Jun 2021, 10:47 (Ref:4059006)

I'd vote for any of the above. I would like to see Oulton Fosters or Snetterton 200. I wonder what happened to the plan of using the Silverstone International Circuit? Has that opportunity vanished now?

Matt K · 30 Jun 2021, 12:12 (Ref:4059016)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I'd vote for any of the above. I would like to see Oulton Fosters or Snetterton 200. I wonder what happened to the plan of using the Silverstone International Circuit? Has that opportunity vanished now?

This is what left me wondering as well. Quite a shame to be honest, there aren't many tracks eligible for BTCC but at least this could be some variation. Nothing against Thruxton, it's a fine track but nothing justifies going there twice.
As for Silverstone's international loop it's quite a shame that we were close to seeing BTCC go there and after Covid came there was no word about it anymore.
Probably a reason was mentioned somewhere but my memory may be too short!

redshoes · 30 Jun 2021, 16:30 (Ref:4059053)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I wonder what happened to the plan of using the Silverstone International Circuit? Has that opportunity vanished now?

I was thinking the same. 2020 meeting was dropped following the Covid enforced calendar shuffle when supposedly Silverstone had no dates available. I can partly understand why it wasn't back for 2021 with some uncertainty over more Covid restrictions, but I was expecting it back in 2022.

After the big fuss they made when the 2020 date was first announced it all seems to have been quietly swept under the carpet.

Greem · 1 Jul 2021, 11:56 (Ref:4059157)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

After the big fuss they made when the 2020 date was first announced it all seems to have been quietly swept under the carpet.

I would surmise - I definitely don't know this as fact, so take it as read - that the International circuit using the Wing pits is considerably more expensive to hire than the National.

Add to that the relatively small size of the paddock which would push some of the support series over to the National paddock areas and have to move pit equipment, tyres, team personnel between the two (like they do at the Grand Prix) I would imagine that TOCA looked at it and thought.... yeah nah.

redshoes · 1 Jul 2021, 16:50 (Ref:4059210)

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Originally Posted by Greem

Add to that the relatively small size of the paddock which would push some of the support series over to the National paddock areas and have to move pit equipment, tyres, team personnel between the two (like they do at the Grand Prix) I would imagine that TOCA looked at it and thought.... yeah nah.

I had questioned the size of the paddock at the time and assumed that TOCA would have been satisfied it was all ok. I don't think using the National paddock was ever an option - the link road between the two works for the GP but cuts across the International track. Opening and closing the movable concrete barrier is not the work of a moment.

Ironically it would have been easier last year as they would have had much more space in the paddock with no hospitality units.

CroftPilgrim · 3 Jul 2021, 11:41 (Ref:4059538)

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Originally Posted by Greem

I would surmise - I definitely don't know this as fact, so take it as read - that the International circuit using the Wing pits is considerably more expensive to hire than the National.

Add to that the relatively small size of the paddock which would push some of the support series over to the National paddock areas and have to move pit equipment, tyres, team personnel between the two (like they do at the Grand Prix) I would imagine that TOCA looked at it and thought.... yeah nah.

Simple answer, as Alan Gow stated about this year's calendar, it was Silverstone's preference to use the National circuit

S griffin · 5 Jul 2021, 14:35 (Ref:4059957)

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Originally Posted by CroftPilgrim

Simple answer, as Alan Gow stated about this year's calendar, it was Silverstone's preference to use the National circuit

So at least we can’t blame Gow, at least he tried with the ‘South’ circuit

VIVA GT · 30 Jun 2021, 12:37 (Ref:4059022)

Could the double visit to Thruxton have anything to do with it also being the BARC's own circuit?

peebee2 · 30 Jun 2021, 13:04 (Ref:4059024)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Could the double visit to Thruxton have anything to do with it also being the BARC's own circuit?

There’s no other reason.

CroftPilgrim · 30 Jun 2021, 17:07 (Ref:4059059)

As much as it would be nice to have a different circuit to Thruxton hosting a second event, it all comes down to who actually wants to or can put a second event on. I know in previous years the option has been there for other circuits but in the absence of any takers, Thruxton gets it

thetool · 30 Jun 2021, 18:22 (Ref:4059068)

It would be nice for the BARC to get their other main track up to standard again. Pembrey would have a good catchment area of Cardiff and Swansea and there's no other rounds within about 200 miles of there. Would fill a big gap in the series' geographical reach.

Alfisti · 1 Jul 2021, 08:27 (Ref:4059134)

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Originally Posted by thetool

It would be nice for the BARC to get their other main track up to standard again. Pembrey would have a good catchment area of Cardiff and Swansea and there's no other rounds within about 200 miles of there. Would fill a big gap in the series' geographical reach.

Absolutely agree with that. Probably needs a shed load of money though... last time I was at Pembrey I had hair and it was pretty rundown and basic. Nice track layout, good to drive on and some great viewing points.

Teletubby · 1 Jul 2021, 10:57 (Ref:4059149)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Absolutely agree with that. Probably needs a shed load of money though... last time I was at Pembrey I had hair and it was pretty rundown and basic. Nice track layout, good to drive on and some great viewing points.

Courtesy of the Welsh Government, Pembrey has hosted zero race meetings in over a year, that's an awful lot of lost revenue. Combine that with the cost of actually hosting a BTCC event vs the number of spectators that would make the journey and I suspect that the sums just don't add up.

S griffin · 1 Jul 2021, 16:38 (Ref:4059202)

We are still waiting for the Circuit of Wales….

Sodemo · 1 Jul 2021, 16:40 (Ref:4059204)

Is 2022 the year when the teams need to start running the hybrid kit?

S griffin · 1 Jul 2021, 16:51 (Ref:4059211)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

Is 2022 the year when the teams need to start running the hybrid kit?

Yes, I think so

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