Circuit Safety in NZ

Goat Boy · 26 Nov 2012, 20:39 (Ref:3171853)

Since this conversation seems to be spread over several threads, I thought I'd start a new one and see if Woolley would do us the favour of moving all those comments into here, then we can argue about it in one place!

NZSTfan · 26 Nov 2012, 22:36 (Ref:3171903)

Good call GB. Seems to be a hot potato this one...

nistfan · 26 Nov 2012, 23:48 (Ref:3171946)

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Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Good call GB. Seems to be a hot potato this one...

Circuit Safety Always is

NZSTfan · 27 Nov 2012, 01:42 (Ref:3171986)

C'mon Woolley, please get a wiggle on

**Woolley** · 27 Nov 2012, 02:16 (Ref:3171996)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Since this conversation seems to be spread over several threads, I thought I'd start a new one and see if Woolley would do us the favour of moving all those comments into here, then we can argue about it in one place!

Will do - will be later in the week when I've got time to go through them all.

Mr Revhead · 27 Nov 2012, 05:54 (Ref:3172027)

One thing I think might be good to keep in mind is every now and.then a car does something weird and ends up where you least expect it.
That doesn't mean the safety was lacking, it just means something unplanned happened. It doesn't automaticlly mean the track is unsafe. But it also doesnt mean it doesnt need to be looked at.

smokin'joe · 27 Nov 2012, 06:06 (Ref:3172028)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

looks like we better ban rallying or bulldozes a "safety net" into every piece of road in case some one looses their brakes on stage

FFS, it's motorport, not tiddly winks, how often has racetrack safety been in the gun after MECHANICAL failure has caused a major issue/incident ????

'nuff said for now.

Club racer · 27 Nov 2012, 06:12 (Ref:3172029)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

One thing I think might be good to keep in mind is every now and.then a car does something weird and ends up where you least expect it.
That doesn't mean the safety was lacking, it just means something unplanned happened. It doesn't automaticlly mean the track is unsafe. But it also doesnt mean it doesnt need to be looked at.

First time I can say I agree with you 100%. It doesn't matter what you ultimately do, by it's very nature it is dangerous. When an issue is highlighted though, act on it. That's what I don't get about lots of the posts. I'm amazed the 'well it has a license so it's as safe as it needs to be' attitude. I honestly, genuinely cannot get my head around that, and I guess to me John's crash just highlights huge gains that could be made from small improvements. In other words, an opportunity to learn.

Still amazed by Bill's comments.

harcey · 27 Nov 2012, 07:07 (Ref:3172039)

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Originally Posted by Club racer

First time I can say I agree with you 100%. It doesn't matter what you ultimately do, by it's very nature it is dangerous. When an issue is highlighted though, act on it. That's what I don't get about lots of the posts. I'm amazed the 'well it has a license so it's as safe as it needs to be' attitude. I honestly, genuinely cannot get my head around that, and I guess to me John's crash just highlights huge gains that could be made from small improvements. In other words, an opportunity to learn.

Still amazed by Bill's comments.

Tyre companies these days are so desperate to get rid of old tyres which they pay a premium to dispose of they would probably deliver for free and help the track to bundle them to save some dosh.....probably takes a couple of phone calls and boom....action.

Bill Brown · 27 Nov 2012, 07:35 (Ref:3172044)

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Originally Posted by harcey

Tyre companies these days are so desperate to get rid of old tyres which they pay a premium to dispose of they would probably deliver for free and help the track to bundle them to save some dosh.....probably takes a couple of phone calls and boom....action.

I wish it was that simple

Goat Boy · 27 Nov 2012, 08:39 (Ref:3172066)

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Originally Posted by Bill Brown

I wish it was that simple

Okay, so tell us why it isn't that simple??

Martin Collins · 27 Nov 2012, 07:15 (Ref:3172040)

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Originally Posted by Club racer

First time I can say I agree with you 100%. It doesn't matter what you ultimately do, by it's very nature it is dangerous. When an issue is highlighted though, act on it. That's what I don't get about lots of the posts. I'm amazed the 'well it has a license so it's as safe as it needs to be' attitude. I honestly, genuinely cannot get my head around that, and I guess to me John's crash just highlights huge gains that could be made from small improvements. In other words, an opportunity to learn.

Still amazed by Bill's comments.

There is an offical process that will be followed up after this incident, the paperwork is in place and it will be reviewed.

Bill Brown · 27 Nov 2012, 07:35 (Ref:3172046)

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Originally Posted by Martin Collins

There is an offical process that will be followed up after this incident, the paperwork is in place and it will be reviewed.

As it is with every injury accident

275 GTB-4 · 21 Feb 2013, 08:20 (Ref:3208353)

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Originally Posted by Club racer

First time I can say I agree with you 100%. It doesn't matter what you ultimately do, by it's very nature it is dangerous. When an issue is highlighted though, act on it. That's what I don't get about lots of the posts. I'm amazed the 'well it has a license so it's as safe as it needs to be' attitude. I honestly, genuinely cannot get my head around that, and I guess to me John's crash just highlights huge gains that could be made from small improvements. In other words, an opportunity to learn.

Still amazed by Bill's comments.

As opposed to what is happening on the public roads just a few yards away...known black spots killing the unwary with impunity...no money to fix the problems! ..but do it on a race track under strictly controlled and mostly safe conditions and the sky is falling!

Goat Boy · 27 Nov 2012, 08:54 (Ref:3172079)

Time for some local suppliers to step in and donate I reckon.

flyingduck · 27 Nov 2012, 20:52 (Ref:3172316)

Have to say I heard Lloyd from Ruapuna on the radio yesterday and he said they were going to do an investigation and talk with Johnny Mac about the track and improvements to turn one.

I say good work and I hope positive things happen,

Now on to the correct nuts and washers for the tyre bundles could you not get someone who was going to pay for the disposal of the tyres to pay for the nuts and washers.

Also I love the idea of PD workers doing the job!!!

HD_TR · 27 Nov 2012, 21:08 (Ref:3172320)

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Originally Posted by flyingduck

Also I love the idea of PD workers doing the job!!!

Well in Hampton Downs case, it isn't so much Periodic Detention, as medium to long term incarceration. For those of you not from the Waikato, Corrections has the Springhill facility across the road.

The erstwhile home of ex-politicians and current domicile of Finance company directors, along with some other low to low-medium security roommates.

Still as you say, nice to see our tax dollars being useful.

NZSTfan · 28 Nov 2012, 22:51 (Ref:3172806)

gotta be better than cotton wool

Bill Brown · 28 Nov 2012, 23:39 (Ref:3172833)

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Originally Posted by NZSTfan

gotta be better than cotton wool

dont be silly you know cant mention those words on this forum and anyway you cant make barriers out of it.

It's what you wrap some of the drivers in.

NZSTfan · 29 Nov 2012, 01:42 (Ref:3172879)

here you go..

http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

Hope this works and welcome to the series

STEALTHY · 29 Nov 2012, 02:27 (Ref:3172888)

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Originally Posted by NZSTfan

here you go..

http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

Hope this works and welcome to the series

Anyway to play that when not in NZ?

adbutler · 29 Nov 2012, 02:47 (Ref:3172895)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Anyway to play that when not in NZ?

It's on Johnny Macs facebook page here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=430775320309537

douglasjames671 · 29 Nov 2012, 03:23 (Ref:3172904)

Thanks for the link . . . he is a lucky bloke

Point2 · 29 Nov 2012, 05:30 (Ref:3172920)

huge hit yes I agree.

Note that his seat or seat mounts broke???

peckstar · 29 Nov 2012, 07:32 (Ref:3172940)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Anyway to play that when not in NZ?

Do you like how they tell us that after they show the add

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