SCCA Trans-Am Series

MagVanisher · 23 Apr 2014, 15:09 (Ref:3397285)

I know that I've create a thread a while back and it's pretty much dead. But what do you think for Trans-Am Series this year, as well as the future of it?

Is it improving, or being the same old series with no improvements? Even though Pirelli World Challenge is gaining success (Don't know what happened to the Continental Challenge though...), I think this series is being under the radar lately.

Bob Riebe · 24 Apr 2014, 22:58 (Ref:3397925)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

I know that I've create a thread a while back and it's pretty much dead. But what do you think for Trans-Am Series this year, as well as the future of it?

Is it improving, or being the same old series with no improvements? Even though Pirelli World Challenge is gaining success (Don't know what happened to the Continental Challenge though...), I think this series is being under the radar lately.

As long as it is tube-frame cars, not cars based on production chassis and power-trains it is going nowhere fast.

If they by some miracle got a serious sponsor, even with the tubies they could make the Nationwide series look like the poser it is, but no money, no real future.

Matt · 24 Apr 2014, 23:50 (Ref:3397930)

Bring back the spoilers.

MagVanisher · 25 Apr 2014, 04:07 (Ref:3397972)

Spoilers are good, but they would look like Nationwide cars. It's better to have wings instead since they don't races in ovals.

Fogelhund · 25 Apr 2014, 04:47 (Ref:3397980)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

. But what do you think for Trans-Am Series this year, as well as the future of it?

It really is just an amateur series now, with little public interest, and no broadcast. The manufacturers have no interest in this type of racing anymore, and as such, there is no money to draw in Pro teams, drivers or broadcast. I don't see that changing any time soon... it is basically just a hollow name now.

Rcz · 25 Apr 2014, 06:59 (Ref:3398020)

You know, with touring car now being made into GT3 spec cars, like the Chevy Camero and the Bentley Continental, somebody could make a modern Trans-Am series with these types of cars.

But I don't think the SCCA would do it because it might interfere with the PWC

IMSA could do it if their American DTM thing falls apart

In order for the car to be eligible it would just have at least 4 seats,with the engine in the front and not to be a GT car but would be confined to FIA GT3 regulation.

They would just run 100 mile sprints.

MagVanisher · 25 Apr 2014, 07:59 (Ref:3398025)

I know that it's an amateur series currently, but yes Rcz, IMSA can do it if the American DTM didn't materialize. Trans-Am needs some help not only from IMSA, but ITR and JAF, which governs DTM and Super GT, respectively.

The result is a two-class sprint series where pony cars race in TA1 class, while international GT3 cars race in TA2 class.

HORNDAWG · 14 Aug 2014, 05:01 (Ref:3444127)

Tommy Kendall to return to Trans Am in a Dodge Challenger SRT this weekend.

http://sportscar365.com/other/kendal...hallenger-srt/

L.P.

MagVanisher · 14 Aug 2014, 05:54 (Ref:3444131)

The Dodge Challenger TA2 car looks great! Still, it would be nice if TA2 becomes the new TA1 class now that all three manufacturers from Detroit have fielded their respective pony cars!

pederb · 14 Aug 2014, 06:56 (Ref:3444145)

for some reason T/A feels old and outdated.

Looking at the image of the new Challenger, it reminds me of Club Racing.

Don't know why

Speed-King · 14 Aug 2014, 07:26 (Ref:3444151)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

The Dodge Challenger TA2 car looks great! Still, it would be nice if TA2 becomes the new TA1 class now that all three manufacturers from Detroit have fielded their respective pony cars!

No way... TA2 only has around 500hp and IIRC all cars have the same Chevy LS3 engine... (at least that's the case in the Scandinavian series that run the same cars over here in Europe).

Quote:

Looking at the image of the new Challenger, it reminds me of Club Racing.

That's because it is.

TF110 · 14 Aug 2014, 07:02 (Ref:3444147)

Thats what Nascar should be imo. Looks more 'stock' car than a 'stock car'.

NaBUru38 · 15 Aug 2014, 16:47 (Ref:3444514)

80,000 dollars for the full car? Wow, that's cheap!

Coach Ep · 18 Aug 2014, 21:28 (Ref:3445195)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

80,000 dollars for the full car? Wow, that's cheap!

Hence the success of the car in TA2 which saw 25 entries last weekend.

All in all great value for money - which is always #1 on the list of the 'club racer'!

BudLightJaguar · 16 Aug 2014, 05:01 (Ref:3444607)

Do they still use carburettors that NASCAR abandoned finally? Anyway, T/A used to be interesting series back in the days when it was a pro series with works or semi-works teams. But at least they don't pretend to be 'green'. It's just racing...vibration, flames and backfiring. Something that many European national series seem to lack.

MagVanisher · 16 Aug 2014, 05:18 (Ref:3444610)

I think they still use carbs so to speak. Remember, Trans-Am is an amateur series and most of the teams can't but nor tune fuel-injected engines yet.

Scratch that, they can buy those engines but SCCA won't allow them.

Bob Riebe · 16 Aug 2014, 15:16 (Ref:3444673)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

I think they still use carbs so to speak. Remember, Trans-Am is an amateur series and most of the teams can't but nor tune fuel-injected engines yet.

Scratch that, they can buy those engines but SCCA won't allow them.

It takes far more knowledge and skill to tune a carburettor than take a computer and work on an injection system.
The carb specialists in NASCAR were paid very big bucks.

BudLightJaguar · 16 Aug 2014, 16:42 (Ref:3444685)

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

It takes far more knowledge and skill to tune a carburettor than take a computer and work on an injection system.
The carb specialists in NASCAR were paid very big bucks.

That makes sense. Programmable and mandated ECU mounted in a spec engine should actually be easier to adjust than a fully mechanical carburettor.
A few decades ago in Finland we had a common phrase Replacement carburettor tune-up has been successful if the hp is less than 10% lower than in the factory setting. Nowadays, you can switch to MoTec or other programmable ECU and actually get some results.

Rcz · 5 Sep 2014, 22:21 (Ref:3450644)

At Mid-Ohio 2013

Trans-Am TA2-1:27.255

PWC GT-1:21.840
PWC GTS-1:28.191

ALMS GTE-1:19.298

I forgot which cars did these times though.

**joeb** · 5 Sep 2014, 22:54 (Ref:3450650)

At Road America 2014

Fastest Trans am lap 2:08.850
GTE 2:05.267
GTD 2:10.897

Keep in mind this track favors power, so the TA cars have an advantage. And these are race laps not qualifying.

Rcz · 5 Sep 2014, 23:52 (Ref:3450656)

I'm assuming that's the TA1 class time.

What about TA2?

Maelochs · 6 Sep 2014, 02:01 (Ref:3450668)

I hope the broadcasts are decent quality because I would definitely want to watch this.

**joeb** · 6 Sep 2014, 02:36 (Ref:3450672)

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Originally Posted by Rcz

I'm assuming that's the TA1 class time.

What about TA2?

You are correct, ta2 was 2:17

Rcz · 6 Sep 2014, 02:59 (Ref:3450676)

From practice 1 of the PWC at Road America

GT-2:08.222
GTS-2:18.927

Trans-Am Qualifing at Road America

TA1-2:05.375
TA2-2:16.124

Deleted · 6 Sep 2014, 07:58 (Ref:3450700)

There was only a second between TA1 and GTE at Mosport Q this year

Few years ago Trans-Am was actually faster

Road Atlanta 2011

Code:

ALMS/ILMC LMP1 Diesel	        1:07:428	Peugeot 908
ALMS/ILMC LMP1 Petrol	        1:10.123	Rebellion Lola-Toyota
ALMS/ILMC LMP2		        1:12.335	Level 5 HPD ARX-01G
ALMS/ILMC LMPC		        1:14.848	Intersport Oreca FLM09
Trans-Am			1:18.561	LR/BR/O/PME Chevrolet Corvette
ALMS/ILMC GTE(-PRO)		1:18.699	AF Corse Ferrari 458 GTC
Prototype Lites			1:19.836	-- Elan DP02
ALMS/ILMC GTE-AM		1:20.619	AF Corse Ferrari 430 GT2
World Challenge GT		1:21.896	Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
ALMS/ILMC GTC		        1:24.543	Black Swan Porsche 911 GT3 up
IMSA Porsche GT3 Challenge	1:25.737	NGT Porsche 911 GT3 Cup
World Challenge GTS		1:30.934	T/STJG/SPX Ford Mustang
Skip Barber Summer		1:33.997	Formula Skip Barber
Skip Barber National		1:34.495	Formula Skip Barber
World Challenge TC		1:34.907	K-Pax Volvo C30
Mazda MX-5 Cup		        1:39.579	AMG Mazda MX-5
Skip Barber Mazdaspeed C.	1:46.820	-- Mazda MX-5

Mosport 2010

Code:

ALMS LMP2			1:06.956	Cytosport Porsche RS Spyder
ALMS LMP1 			1:07.482	Drayson Lola Judd
ALMS LMPC			1:11.455	PR1 Oreca FLM09
Star Mazda			1:15.342	Juncos Formula Mazda
Trans-Am			1:15.719	Derhaag Chevrolet Corvette
Prototype Lites			1:15.875	Core Autosport Elan DP02
ALMS GT2			1:17.160	Risi Ferrari F430
NA-F2000			1:21.475	Alegra Van Diemen Zetec
Ontario Formula Libre		1:21.584	BEMC Elan DP02 IMSA Lights
ALMS GTC			1:22.495	Orbit Porsche 911 GT3 Cup
Ontario Formula F1600		1:27.568 	BARC FF (...)
Canadian Touring Car Champ.	1:30.286	QHP Subaru WRX STi
Ontario Formula 1200		1:45.927 	Montana Auto Centre Van De Car F1200

Road America 2010

Code:

ALMS LMP1			1:49.554	Drayson Lola Judd
ALMS LMP2			1:50.875	Dyson Lola Mazda
ALMS LMPC			1:58.287	PR1 Oreca FLM09
Trans Am			2:05.066	Ave/Pro Motor Chevrolet Corvette
Star Mazda			2:05.615	Juncos Formula Mazda
ALMS GT2			2:06.509	Chevrolet Corvette C6.R ZR1
USF2000			        2:10.765	Andretti Van Diemen Mazda
ALMS GTC			2:14.345	Black Swan Porsche 911 GT3 Cup
NASCAR Nationwide		2:14.838	Roush Fenway Ford
IMSA Porsche GT3 Challenge	2:14.932	Maxwell Porsche 997 GT3 Cup
NA-F2000			2:15.271	Primus Van Diemen Zetec
Formula F 			2:22.554	Van Diemen Ford
Formula 500 			2:22.896	Scorpion S1 Rotax
Skip Barber National		2:31.966	Formula Skip Barber

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