Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: FlagMarshal.com MarshalsGuide.com Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Racing Talk > Marshals Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 4 Jun 2018, 17:32 (Ref:3826810)   #1
hellfire31
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 6
hellfire31 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Body Cam

Anyone using body cams to record races for looking back on and also for incident capturing?
hellfire31 is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Jun 2018, 17:38 (Ref:3826812)   #2
Bodysnatcher
La Grande Théière
Veteran
 
Bodysnatcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Marshall Islands
5 minutes from the kentagon
Posts: 2,420
Bodysnatcher has a real shot at the podium!Bodysnatcher has a real shot at the podium!Bodysnatcher has a real shot at the podium!Bodysnatcher has a real shot at the podium!
Quote:
Originally Posted by hellfire31 View Post
Anyone using body cams to record races for looking back on and also for incident capturing?
NO.
Video recording of racing by marshals is banned by both bike and car racing clubs
Ignoring this advice is a very quick way to get banned from being a marshal.
Bodysnatcher is offline  
__________________
Alasdair
Quote
Old 4 Jun 2018, 17:57 (Ref:3826815)   #3
hellfire31
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 6
hellfire31 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
would of thought it was a good way to refer back to incidents.
hellfire31 is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Jun 2018, 21:50 (Ref:3826855)   #4
deley
Veteran
 
deley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
United Kingdom
Bramley, Guildford
Posts: 1,081
deley should be qualifying in the top 10 on the griddeley should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodysnatcher View Post
NO.
Video recording of racing by marshals is banned by both bike and car racing clubs
Ignoring this advice is a very quick way to get banned from being a marshal.
Spot on.
deley is offline  
__________________
Dave Eley
Flag & Experienced Marshal
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2018, 09:01 (Ref:3826911)   #5
The Fat Clerk
Veteran
 
The Fat Clerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Northern Ireland
Bishopscourt
Posts: 3,697
The Fat Clerk should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridThe Fat Clerk should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by deley View Post
Spot on.
Absolutely, if I was Clerking or Stewarding I would ask for the Marshal to stop recording, and if they didn't would ask for them to be stood down.
The Fat Clerk is offline  
__________________
Comments made are personal and don't reflect any club or Motorsport UK policy.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2018, 12:59 (Ref:3826940)   #6
Duracell
Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
United Kingdom
Posts: 6
Duracell should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Everyone who as replied is completely correct, video recording of racing is banned for Marshals, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

It is however an interesting question. It is likely that the rules banning recording equipment were written a long time ago and technology has moved on in unimaginable ways since.

With lower manning levels seen across the country and at times Marshals stepping up into roles unknown to them before I can understand why the question has been asked. The tech to do this is widely available and relatively cheap.

I would imagine that the MSA and the clubs involved would (quite rightly) be very worried about close up footage leaking its way online with the potential to do far more harm than good. I expect that this alone will probably stop any attempt to change the rules to allow these recording devices before the debate even starts...

I think that it is important to talk about change rather than just ignore or dismiss it. However in this case I feel there are compelling reasons to maintain the status quo.

Last edited by Duracell; 5 Jun 2018 at 13:10. Reason: spelling and grammar
Duracell is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2018, 15:15 (Ref:3826965)   #7
Terrible-Tones
Veteran
 
Terrible-Tones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Wales
Thrapston - Northants
Posts: 1,045
Terrible-Tones should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridTerrible-Tones should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fat Clerk View Post
Absolutely, if I was Clerking or Stewarding I would ask for the Marshal to stop recording, and if they didn't would ask for them to be stood down.
Interested in how you view a slightly different take as a Clerk Dave?

A driver pulled up on opposite side of track with a team on the outside. A lap later I had a heavy impact on the inside. During the incident I noted that the driver who had pulled up on the outside, ran down the gap behind the tyre wall and used his phone to record the entire incident we were dealing with. Unfortunately I couldn't get to him as we were still under live track (S/C) + I was busy of course, looking after our driver and clearing up the mess.

It vaguely irritated me, as effectively the driver was in a trackside position (not public area behind catch fencing). Whatever the MSA policy, I just didn't think it was "cricket" TBH. I did report it.

Does the MSA policy cover drivers trackside, or are they exempt? Has this type of scenario even been thought about?

TBF - I haven't seen the footage in the public media (yet).
Terrible-Tones is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2018, 17:03 (Ref:3826983)   #8
The Fat Clerk
Veteran
 
The Fat Clerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Northern Ireland
Bishopscourt
Posts: 3,697
The Fat Clerk should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridThe Fat Clerk should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrible-Tones View Post
Interested in how you view a slightly different take as a Clerk Dave?

A driver pulled up on opposite side of track with a team on the outside. A lap later I had a heavy impact on the inside. During the incident I noted that the driver who had pulled up on the outside, ran down the gap behind the tyre wall and used his phone to record the entire incident we were dealing with. Unfortunately I couldn't get to him as we were still under live track (S/C) + I was busy of course, looking after our driver and clearing up the mess.

It vaguely irritated me, as effectively the driver was in a trackside position (not public area behind catch fencing). Whatever the MSA policy, I just didn't think it was "cricket" TBH. I did report it.

Does the MSA policy cover drivers trackside, or are they exempt? Has this type of scenario even been thought about?

TBF - I haven't seen the footage in the public media (yet).
Certainly not cricket & no the Driver or any other Team Members are not exempt. As I was in the Safety Car I don't know what the end result was but @ the next MG meeting which is @ Donington in July i'll ask.
The Fat Clerk is offline  
__________________
Comments made are personal and don't reflect any club or Motorsport UK policy.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Quote
Old 4 Jun 2018, 21:48 (Ref:3826854)   #9
deley
Veteran
 
deley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
United Kingdom
Bramley, Guildford
Posts: 1,081
deley should be qualifying in the top 10 on the griddeley should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
No cameras on duty... photo or video. End of.

Last edited by deley; 4 Jun 2018 at 21:54.
deley is offline  
__________________
Dave Eley
Flag & Experienced Marshal
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Has "Ford" asked to be taken off the cam covers? H16 Sportscar & GT Racing 9 14 Mar 2003 20:26
Schumi cam Alan Jones Formula One 24 11 Mar 2003 13:04
Helmet Cam!! Andy Roberts ChampCar World Series 22 7 May 2002 16:55
Team CAM Mitsubishi withdraw... touringlegend Touring Car Racing 16 30 Jun 2001 07:58


All times are GMT. The time now is 18:30.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.