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Good for his Lordship and am glad to have someone like this promoting such a series; just wish he could have sustained an effort in proper sportscar racing as well. I hope the series and his Lordship can peak the racing world's interest, but I have my doubts.
And to be a true "zero emissions" series, they need get their electricity from a zero emissions source (and I guess we can consider nuclear as "zero emissions"). Otherwise, they are just replacing emissions from the car with emissions from power plants, and taking money from oil companies and giving it to the power companies (feel free to take an "eco-mentalist" jab here ). A bit more here. Quote:
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So many of the so-called 'green' modes of transport/fuel are anything but. Too many vested interests, for companies it's all about the money they can make by portraying their technology as green. Take it all with a pinch of salt. If electricity still largely comes from emissions-producing power stations, then the only advantage I can see from electric vehicles is keeping the emissions out of city centres. Plus, aren't there serious environmental impacts from the production and disposal of battery cells that electric vehicles use? Sorry if this is an over-simplistic and cynical view of it all, but I don't buy it. And I certainly won't be going to watch those abominations race. |
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Just read Speed TV's interview with Drayson, I think someone ought to tell him green technology will only become viable in real world applications if the end user doesn't have to make compromises.
Competing against established technologies in P1 ensures hybrid development will be rapid in order to gain a competitive advantage. Audi and Peugeot delaying their implimentation tells you they are interested in performance and efficiency rather than ticking a box. In the EVCup race formats will be designed around cars limitations reducing the incentive to push boundaries. At a time when UK motorists are struggling to afford ever increasing fuel prices technology that can be implemented today, not 5, 10, 15 years down the line is needed. That means smaller, more efficient combustion engines, hybrid technology and systems like stop-start. Going down the all electric route is a long-term project and gives Drayson the opportunity to preach to the masses while major manufacturers are the ones dealing with far more pressing matters. Last edited by JAG; 25 Feb 2011 at 15:36. |
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Fuel Cells? Combine H and O2 in there, and electric come out!
NASA have been doing this for what, 40 years, now? |
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Dont think a Mr.Cocker will be pleased about that !!!
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He's proven himself to be competitive in both GT and prototype machinery within a short period of time. Hopefully Jonny can secure a drive in something this season. Would be a great shame to see such talent go to waste. Last edited by R4z3rw33n; 23 Feb 2011 at 13:36. |
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Somebody will find him a home. He's way too good NOT to! I would guess AMR will have something for him, either LMP or GT, Factory or Partner team.
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Well, good for him if this is what he wants but I wouldn't waste my time and money going to see these abortions race. Bleh
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Disappointing, it was a way too short run for that team and car. Mr. Drayson was at the Lola Forum last fall, discussing about the future of sportscars and ILMC, so I was expecting something more interesting than... this.
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Wow, now that sounds like a hell of of a series.
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So, this is like the pro version of drunken golf cart racing? I think Paul Tracy has found his ride for next season.
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Given this is basically club level racing with a Westfield, yet rumours suggest Drayson is looking to purchase the ex-TWR facility and build their own car, is there more to come in 2012?
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Very disappointing. I'm sure literally seconds into the electric season he will miss the sportscar scene.
I don't think it's the last we've seen of him. But until then, the team may as well have disappeared off the face of the earth. |
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How can a team find excitment in such a confidential series after battling in the top class of the top level of sportcar, sometimes against big manufacturers?... So, are Cocker and Pirro without a drive in serious motorsport now? |
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But they'll have plenty of potential suitors won't they? I can see Aston Martin wanting Cocker's raw pace and Pirro's unrivalled experience. OAK have 4 cars, surely not all 12 seats are taken already? SigTech I would have though might have something going... The list goes on. It's not definite, but surely it would be a massive surprise if neither of them found a home...? |
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