South Korea

[Alwaysfirst]

South Korea needs a street track! The new Ansan track doesn't look exactly inspiring & Changwon has never been especially popular. Therefore I designed a track in Seoul around the football stadium & I quite like it. I have also done an (uninspiring) edit of Changwon.

Changwon - http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=293598 - length now 3.9041 km

Seoul - http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=293624 - length 4.8507 km

The anticlockwise lap begins on the 1km main straight. The start line itself is about 300m before T1, a sharp but wide 90 degree corner. A 400m straight leads to T2, another 90 degree left. This takes us into the sports complex. Another short straight, a left hand kink, another short straight and a kink to the right follow before T5, a right handed 90 degree corner made more difficult by the fast right handed kink just in the braking zone. A couple of small kinks follow before T8 & 9, a left-right complex taking us out of the complex on to the river embankment. T10 is a sweeping uphill lefthander onto the bridge over the river. A short straight then follows into the downhill left handed hairpin of T11. Another short straight with a kink follows leading into T13, a fast sweeping right hander .A 500m straight follows this into T14, a tight but wide left hander. This leads onto a very wide 550m straight. At the end of this straight there is the tight T15-16 complex. T15 is a slow 90 degree right whilst T16 gradually opens out. It also has 3 apexes. This leads back onto the main straight. A quick uphill-downhill follows as the track crosses over the river again before ending the lap.

Comments..........

[Alwaysfirst]

Anybody...................................

Now post!!!!

[jab]

Don't know much about Changwon anyway but it looks OK, and the Seoul circuits not too shabby either. I have to admit that there's nothing too inspiring about them, but that's street circuits for you

[Alwaysfirst]

Come on guys! The track isn't that bad! 1 response in 2 days!

[Lustigson]

That's a nice track, AF. One detail, though:that piece between turn 11 and 13 might be a bit too narrow. Plus I'd do the track clockwise.

Sorry I didn't reply before. I didn't seen the thread any earlier.

[Alwaysfirst]

One of the good things about this area of the city is that the roads are either very wide as it is, or they have the potential to be widened.

I'm not too bothered about clockwise or not though!

[Tathrim]

Great tracks, but i prefer Changwon

[Alwaysfirst]

How can you prefer Changwon?! It is unpopular with drivers, very narrow, causes big problems for the city with roads being affected, it's too shart & overtaking is all but impossible. Even with my (rubbish) edit it still wouldn't be that good a track & have a look at the area on the pedometer-further expansion would be very hard, if not impossible. I just can't see Changwon being worth the effort of getting there. F3 seemed to agree.........

[pirenzo]

Yet everyone likes Macau, which is all of those things as well really. Odd...
Changwon would be better now you've lengthened it IMO

Seoul on the other hand looks pretty uninteresting.

[Fish_Flake]

Originally Posted by pirenzo

Yet everyone likes Macau, which is all of those things as well really. Odd...
Changwon would be better now you've lengthened it IMO

Seoul on the other hand looks pretty uninteresting.

But Macau has that very long, very wide, doglegged straightaway going for it. Changwon, on the other hand, is just another run through a parking lot.

[Alwaysfirst]

Changwon is only just over 3km long, has no real fast corners, isn't challenging for drivers, is flat, has one of the slowest & most uninteresting sections in racing through T6-10 & is hugely unpopular with locals. Contrast with Macau. Macau is more than 6km long, has several fast kinks & a very long straight, is in the top 5 of the most challenging circuits in the world, is universally popular with teams. These are the reasons why Macau is vastly more popular than Changwon, & deservedly so.

And at least if the Soeul circuit isn't the most inspiring of tracks it still has a 1km straight, several different types of corners, elevation change, fast corners, slow corners & very very wide straights + a potential stadium section. Plus slipstreaming would be possible due to the width & length of the straights. Racing would be able to happen. One of those straights is more than 9 lanes wide. We're thinking wider by far than the Norisring! Most of the starting grid could be in one long row! I just feel that there is far more potential for great racing, as well as being able to be expanded, than at Changwon.