MotoGP Round 9 - Dutch TT - TT Circuit Assen

flying finn · 23 Jun 2008, 03:16 (Ref:2235344)

MotoGP Round 9 - Dutch TT - TT Circuit Assen

Thursday 26.06
Free Practice 1 > 10:00 - 11:00
Free Practice 2 > 13:55 - 14:55

Friday 27.06
Free Practice 3 > 10:00 - 11:00
Qualifying > 13:55 - 14:55

Saturday 29.06
Warm Up > 09:40 - 10:05
Race (26 laps x 4.555km = 118.430km) > 14:00 - 14:45

Lap Record > 1'37.106 > Nicky HAYDEN (2006)
Dutch TT home page > http://www.tt-assen.com/cms/DutchTT-MotoGP-1100.html
Event timetable > http://www.tt-assen.com/cms/Tijdsche...yleTT-6748.php
Google Satellite > http://maps.google.com/maps? f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=TT+Circuit+Assen+Netherlands&ie=UTF8&ll=52.959057,6.523604&spn=0.023602,0.08153 9&t=k&z=15
Preview > should be more of the same from Donington Park, except Capirossi should be back

Championship Standings

1. Valentino ROSSI ITA > 162
2. Dani PEDROSA SPA > 151
3. Casey STONER AUS > 117
4. Jorge LORENZO SPA > 104
5. Colin EDWARDS USA > 82
6. Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA > 68
7. Nicky HAYDEN USA > 57
8. James TOSELAND GBR > 53
9. Loris CAPIROSSI ITA > 51
10. Shinya NAKANO JPN > 49
11. Chris VERMEULEN AUS > 48
12. John HOPKINS USA > 32

Gerben24 · 26 Jun 2008, 12:39 (Ref:2237970)

This is the track where Edwards and Hayden usually keep their career alive, with some good rides!

Still, I think the Ducati has a way to big advantage, anybody can win on that bike...

Tazz · 26 Jun 2008, 20:33 (Ref:2238302)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerben24

Still, I think the Ducati has a way to big advantage, anybody can win on that bike...

Even Melandri ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerben24

I heard Capirossi crashed in practice and might have another injury
Is Spies still on stand by?

No, it looks like he's out too:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jun/080626f.htm

But if not Loris, and not Spier... than who ?

Gerben24 · 27 Jun 2008, 07:10 (Ref:2238527)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz

Even Melandri ?

That comment was to be taken with a pinch of salt of course...

Qualifying times

Motogp
18 Marco MELANDRI ITA Ducati Marlboro Team DUCATI 1'39,214
250cc
1 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Mapfre Aspar Team Aprilia 1'39.510

Currently the weather is really awful over here, but they say it'll be a bit better in the afternoon...

Gerben24 · 27 Jun 2008, 13:16 (Ref:2238739)

I just watched qualifying! What a great session! It was so close, with unbelievable laps of the top 3! Very enjoyable, and that is the way I like a qualifying session to be. Just 1 hour, with the last 20 minutes the times tumbling down in rapid order! I thought the new qualy rules in Formula 1 were good, but my God, I wish it was back as how it is now in Motogp!

Hopkins had a very nasty fall, I hope he is alright...

2000yellow360 · 27 Jun 2008, 20:15 (Ref:2238964)

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Originally Posted by Gerben24

Hopkins had a very nasty fall, I hope he is alright...

He isn't. Will be out for at least 3 weeks, hoping to be back by Laguna. He made a huge mistake leaving Suzuki for Kawasaki, but he was after the instant dollar (or Euro), and at 3.7M Euros for the season, didn't even given Suzuki time to match the offer (although his agreement with them said they had a right of 1st refusal).

Art

bestfit · 26 Jun 2008, 13:16 (Ref:2237994)

Are you going Gerben?

Gerben24 · 26 Jun 2008, 13:36 (Ref:2238013)

No, skipping this year (I just blew more than 2 grand on a booking for a holiday). I'll be there again next year!

I heard Capirossi crashed in practice and might have another injury

Is Spies still on stand by?

bestfit · 26 Jun 2008, 14:26 (Ref:2238061)

He's back in the states AFAIK.
I don't think you can substitute riders after the meeting has started, but I might be wrong.

Capirex has cut to his forearm but has not further injured his hand.
No word yet on whether he is fit to continue.

bestfit · 26 Jun 2008, 14:32 (Ref:2238065)

Quote:

He's back in the states AFAIK.
I don't think you can substitute riders after the meeting has started, but I might be wrong.

Seems like I am wrong on both counts. (nothing unusual there

)

See here

"Tenth placed Chris Vermeulen had a small run-off during the afternoon session, but his was a minor setback in comparison to that of Rizla Suzuki teammate Loris Capirossi. The returning veteran -absent from Donington with a hand injury- suffered a brutal highside that ended with the Italian nursing a cut forearm in the Clinica Mobile. He played no further part in the session, and his replacement in Britain Ben Spies is on-hand in the Netherlands should his services be required."

2000yellow360 · 26 Jun 2008, 23:25 (Ref:2238394)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestfit

Seems like I am wrong on both counts. (nothing unusual there

)

See here

"Tenth placed Chris Vermeulen had a small run-off during the afternoon session, but his was a minor setback in comparison to that of Rizla Suzuki teammate Loris Capirossi. The returning veteran -absent from Donington with a hand injury- suffered a brutal highside that ended with the Italian nursing a cut forearm in the Clinica Mobile. He played no further part in the session, and his replacement in Britain Ben Spies is on-hand in the Netherlands should his services be required."

They are testing the motogp bikes at Indy on the 1st & 2nd of July. Ben isn't going to ride Assen though. Don't know the reason, but it could be lack of practice, having never seen the track before.

Art

bestfit · 27 Jun 2008, 01:18 (Ref:2238438)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000yellow360

They are testing the motogp bikes at Indy on the 1st & 2nd of July. Ben isn't going to ride Assen though. Don't know the reason, but it could be lack of practice, having never seen the track before.

Apparently he was offered the ride and said no.
He has missed a full days practice and with the possibility of rain it is a no win situation. Probably a good decision.

ozrevhead · 27 Jun 2008, 23:07 (Ref:2239028)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestfit

Apparently he was offered the ride and said no.
He has missed a full days practice and with the possibility of rain it is a no win situation. Probably a good decision.

Are you serious

If you want motogp badly enough youd take any chance to get on a motogp bike - sure he didnt get practice but if he got on that bike and produced a good to great result he is in the spotlight... why do you think Suzuki came back to him after last race? For a Laugh????

THAT is why british riders arent making it it to the top sucessfully....... Alot of British riders have talent but their work ethic and willingness to take any chance of showing yourself has a lot to be desired
**hides under table**

**ghinzani** · 28 Jun 2008, 07:47 (Ref:2239148)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozrevhead

Are you serious

THAT is why british riders arent making it it to the top sucessfully....... Alot of British riders have talent but their work ethic and willingness to take any chance of showing yourself has a lot to be desired
**hides under table**

Are'nt we talking about a septic though? When did the Brits come into it? Anyway Aussies only get the rides 'cos its the only way of shutting the b**tards up - pop a helmet on them them, send then out on track and lets get back to our tea and scones.

2000yellow360 · 9 Jul 2008, 02:34 (Ref:2247644)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestfit

Apparently he was offered the ride and said no.
He has missed a full days practice and with the possibility of rain it is a no win situation. Probably a good decision.

Before the race weekend started, Ben's manager told Suzuki that Ben wasn't going to ride if Capparossi (sp?) wasn't able because Ben wouldn't have time to learn the track if Ben couldn't ride all of the practices. After Capparossi crashed, there was a meeting with Ben, his manager, Japanese management, the team manager, and Kevin Swantz. Kevin wanted Ben to ride, but Doug Gonda, Ben's manager, declined because of the lack of practice.

Art

Pro Racer · 27 Jun 2008, 01:43 (Ref:2238445)

i smell a Rossi/Casey battle with Rossi the victor. with the usual Edwards/Hayden battle for their "once a year show" for the last spot on the podium.

Pro Racer · 27 Jun 2008, 16:37 (Ref:2238849)

WOW Melandri, 3.2 seconds slower then his teammate, 1.5 slower then the 2nd D'Antin bike and a full second slower then West on the ****test bike in the field. i like Marco but he really has to go, it's not helping Casey and Ducati move forward Casey is a lone ranger, you would not think the factory Ducati's would be bookending the field. how can one be so fast and the other so slow???

Gerben24 · 27 Jun 2008, 18:22 (Ref:2238901)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pro Racer

WOW Melandri, 3.2 seconds slower then his teammate, 1.5 slower then the 2nd D'Antin bike and a full second slower then West on the ****test bike in the field. i like Marco but he really has to go, it's not helping Casey and Ducati move forward Casey is a lone ranger, you would not think the factory Ducati's would be bookending the field. how can one be so fast and the other so slow???

Well Pro, I agree with you, it is painful to watch and I think he should be replaced. They're not going to find a setting that works for him, that's obvious. So, just put Gibernau or Canepa on the bike!

I know he's not helping Stoner, but Stoner is not helping him either. So, what is your point there? Lorenzo is not helping Rossi by getting injured all the time and Hayden is not helping Pedrosa by having a total different riding style, finishing well down the field all the time and now riding a different bike as well! Are you suggesting they should be sacked as well?

2000yellow360 · 27 Jun 2008, 20:15 (Ref:2238965)

Yes, those guys should be replaced.

Art

**ghinzani** · 27 Jun 2008, 20:50 (Ref:2238986)

Casey likes this track as he's not the only Stoner in attendance for a change.

**gomick** · 27 Jun 2008, 23:54 (Ref:2239044)

so if there is no capirossi or hopkins then melandri & west are odds on to get points

what are the chances of rain?

Dani Filth · 28 Jun 2008, 09:48 (Ref:2239198)

one thing we've learned from the 125 .. there's nobody crazier than Iannone ..
what a final lap .. I think i've hold my breath the whole lap

Gerben24 · 28 Jun 2008, 10:10 (Ref:2239202)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

one thing we've learned from the 125 .. there's nobody crazier than Iannone ..

I think that Marquez kid comes close!

chunder · 28 Jun 2008, 13:07 (Ref:2239255)

Aussies get rides because they are good its that simple!

There havent been any decent Brist for years

Mackenzie had a million chances but came into teh sport whe the riding style and engineering ethic was all about rear wheel steering. If he was 21 now he would be in his element

Haslam was decent but had to put with riding Elf's and some slow ish bikes

Rob Mac was quick too but again bit of a crasher.

Jay Vincent was a quality 250 guy, as was Jamie Robinson. Jezza got great results on a private 250 as did guys liek Donnie McLeod.

Aussies if you think about it there have been a few failures there too. Mladin, Magee, Mark Willis, West (perhaps in GP not 250), Gobert, Beattie (after 95 of course),

Ok a few of them won races but Magee, Beattie and West are so inconsistent!

I think Brits are getting there, but the only ones that are are getting involved in racing in Spain from a young age, I dont think riding in the UK is a good idea for younger riders.

GORDON STREETER · 28 Jun 2008, 17:02 (Ref:2239326)

Well that got a bit boring today. Also only 13 finishers !
I hope this isn't going to be how the rest of the season pans out, the only highlight for me was the payback time for De Puniet, it was a pity it was Rossi
although I think Stoner would still have got it.

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