CAMS pays their way at Bathurst

[cavvy]

Was that Mr Osborne queueing to get in?

VESA pulls CAMS passes?

CAMS & VESA in dispute over their product?

No passes required if you pay at the gate like we punters !!!

[DAVID PATERSON]

Consider the pot stirred.

[Karr]

Time for CAMS to say "Good night" to the V8 circus?

[inpitlane]

Originally Posted by Karr

Time for CAMS to say "Good night" to the V8 circus?

There has been a strong rumour going around the V8 ranks all year that Tony wants out from any involvement with CAMS and it could start from next year, although he has supposedly told sponsors and teams that a full V8SA sanctioned series will be definite for 2010.
According to my sources, and they're fairly high up within the V8 scene, Tony wants to professionalise the trackside marshals and also wants V8SA to have more input into the running of the meeting and a say in formulating regs for support categories which he sees as letting the side down.
He's especially scathing of some of the CAMS regs that restrict drivers from doing burn-outs and doughnuts which he sees as an important part of the show.
Getting all the legal stuff sorted to make it happen will be a main part of the job for the new CEO.

[Denosaur]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

There has been a strong rumour going around the V8 ranks all year that Tony wants out from any involvement with CAMS and it could start from next year, although he has supposedly told sponsors and teams that a full V8SA sanctioned series will be definite for 2010.
According to my sources, and they're fairly high up within the V8 scene, Tony wants to professionalise the trackside marshals and also wants V8SA to have more input into the running of the meeting and a say in formulating regs for support categories which he sees as letting the side down.
He's especially scathing of some of the CAMS regs that restrict drivers from doing burn-outs and doughnuts which he sees as an important part of the show.
Getting all the legal stuff sorted to make it happen will be a main part of the job for the new CEO.

So when is Rickky Bobby joining the Series??

CAMS - The blood, money and fun suckers of Australian Motorsport!!

[Trevor]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

There has been a strong rumour going around the V8 ranks all year that Tony wants out from any involvement with CAMS and it could start from next year, although he has supposedly told sponsors and teams that a full V8SA sanctioned series will be definite for 2010.
According to my sources, and they're fairly high up within the V8 scene, Tony wants to professionalise the trackside marshals and also wants V8SA to have more input into the running of the meeting and a say in formulating regs for support categories which he sees as letting the side down.
He's especially scathing of some of the CAMS regs that restrict drivers from doing burn-outs and doughnuts which he sees as an important part of the show.
Getting all the legal stuff sorted to make it happen will be a main part of the job for the new CEO.

God, won't they (CAMS) bleed out of the arse when that happens, and I would back it in that it will.

[racer69]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

There has been a strong rumour going around the V8 ranks all year that Tony wants out from any involvement with CAMS and it could start from next year, although he has supposedly told sponsors and teams that a full V8SA sanctioned series will be definite for 2010.

Ten years ago, weren't Advantage International & Channel 7 told that the Bathurst City Council would only allow CAMS sanctioned events to take place on Mt Panorama (when they tried to use AUSCAR sanctioning for the planned 1999 AMP 1000?)

[PVDA]

Originally Posted by racer69

Ten years ago, weren't Advantage International & Channel 7 told that the Bathurst City Council would only allow CAMS sanctioned events to take place on Mt Panorama (when they tried to use AUSCAR sanctioning for the planned 1999 AMP 1000?)

In this day & age the ACCC would take a dim view of someone attempting to apply a trade restriction like that.

[banksie]

VESA also rejected Peter McKay's application for a press pass. Ticks the box of being an employee at a national motoring magazine. But VESA believe not all publicity is good publicity.

[Green Hornet]

Originally Posted by banksie

VESA also rejected Peter McKay's application for a press pass. Ticks the box of being an employee at a national motoring magazine. But VESA believe not all publicity is good publicity.

Now that is a surprise considering he has done nothing but knock the V8 series since its inception where they decide not to go the way of the Super Tourers/Future Tourers combination - therefore no room for his precious Toyotos and Mazdas.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Green Hornet

Now that is a surprise considering he has done nothing but knock the V8 series since its inception where they decide not to go the way of the Super Tourers/Future Tourers combination - therefore no room for his precious Toyotos and Mazdas.

So what happened to 'freedom of the press' or 'freedom of speech'?
You really think its OK for any organisation to deliberately try and gag journo's?

Its absolutely pathetic that the 'world according to VESA' is all they allow to be written......

[bazil]

Originally Posted by banksie

VESA also rejected Peter McKay's application for a press pass.

What a hypocrite, spends all his time bagging the series, like a few in these forums, and then wants to attend its biggest race in privileged comfort???

All I can say to Mr. McKay is

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by bazil

What a hypocrite, spends all his time bagging the series, like a few in these forums, and then wants to attend its biggest race in privileged comfort???

Hang on a sec Baz, speaking about hypocrites VESA take his press pass and now Cochrane complains that the Sydney Morning Herald dont write stories about V8s?

McKay is entitled to his opinion but it seems VESA only want media they are prepared to print their press releases word by word, something that the telegraph has perfected.

The motorsport media does toe the v8 line to the detriment of the industry. Even the once hard hitting journo Mark Fogarty in a recent AA interview sat through a Cochrane Interview and didnt have any follow up questions to of his answers, despite many of them not adding up.

[Trevor]

It is about time they started paying, every other ******* is paying them for everything under the sun, from fines to licence fees to track fees.

[Crash Test]

If Peter McKay ragged on my cooking for years, why would I invite him over for dinner?

If he wanted to attend I'm sure he could... just he'd have to sit in the car with his wireless dongle instead of enjoying the AC and free cans of Pepsi in the media centre...

[NewsStalker]

Big difference between the MCG and Mt Panorama though.

MCG is privately owned and controlled by the owners.

Mt Panorama is a public road and all racing is covered by an Act of Parliament!

[inpitlane]

Originally Posted by NewsStalker

Big difference between the MCG and Mt Panorama though.

MCG is privately owned and controlled by the owners.

Mt Panorama is a public road and all racing is covered by an Act of Parliament!

Actually the MCG is not privately owned it is crown land administered by a Government appointed trust and it's use was deeded to the Melbourne Cricket Club by the Government back in late 1800s I think.
Either way V8SC treatment of Peter McKay and others that don't tow the party line is a disgrace but an even bigger disgrace is the cowardice of the mainstream motorsport media who haven't gone into bat for their colleague.
When Bernie tried this with a US reporter at Indy the entire US media contingent declared the event black and walked out.
The next morning Bernie was in the Press Centre making a grovelling apology.
BTW there is no such thing as "Freedom of the Press" here in Australia, in fact Australia's media is amongst the most restricted and regimented anywhere in the western world.

[bazil]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

Either way V8SC treatment of Peter McKay and others that don't tow the party line is a disgrace but an even bigger disgrace is the cowardice of the mainstream motorsport media who haven't gone into bat for their colleague.

Surley you jest?? This bloke has used his column in a major paper to wage his own personal agenda against Supercars for years and has made no secret of it. He got the treatment he deserves. As for his colleagues being cowards; that’s a pretty big call on your behalf and one I am sure many of your esteemed colleagues would not share...

And please don’t roll out the timeless whinge about the freedom of the press, its almost like parliamentary privileged, a joke.

P.S

If I have said anything in my comments above that offends anyone or comes across as demanding anyone tow the line, I wish to say that it was taken out of context and its not my fault...

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by bazil

Surley you jest?? This bloke has used his column in a major paper to wage his own personal agenda against Supercars for years and has made no secret of it. He got the treatment he deserves. As for his colleagues being cowards; that’s a pretty big call on your behalf and one I am sure many of your esteemed colleagues would not share...

And please don’t roll out the timeless whinge about the freedom of the press, its almost like parliamentary privileged, a joke.

P.S

If I have said anything in my comments above that offends anyone or comes across as demanding anyone tow the line, I wish to say that it was taken out of context and its not my fault...

I'd run the freedom of the press line baz ... your approach is akin to demanding all press gallery journos are card carrying members of the union ... yes men may be your preferred reading baz, not for me !!!

[bazil]

Originally Posted by cavvy

I'd run the freedom of the press line baz ... your approach is akin to demanding all press gallery journos are card carrying members of the union ... yes men may be your preferred reading baz, not for me !!!

Cavvy, I will assume that you have taken my thoughts out of context. I have no time for unions or yes men and enjoy discussion with others who share a different point of view. However I certainly dont expect an invitation to Christmas lunch with DRT or the ARDC now or anytime in the near future. McKay has every right to exercise his opinion but unlike most of us he has a column in a major fish and chip wrapper to voice his own agenda. He has chosen for personal reasons to wage his own smear campaign against Supercars since day 1.

In spite of his stance he still expects to be invited to Bathurst? Because of freedom of the press? If I was Cocho I would have extended an open invitation to all scribes at his paper but with a clear exception of him. Freedom of the press is like parliamentary privilege because journo’s use it to say what ever they want without repercussion or reprisal and that is just "Crap"

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

Actually the MCG is not privately owned it is crown land administered by a Government appointed trust and it's use was deeded to the Melbourne Cricket Club by the Government back in late 1800s I think.
.

The MCG is taxpayers property - the MCG Trust.

The Melbourne Cricket Club have management rights to 2035.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

Actually the MCG is not privately owned it is crown land administered by a Government appointed trust and it's use was deeded to the Melbourne Cricket Club by the Government back in late 1800s I think.
Either way V8SC treatment of Peter McKay and others that don't tow the party line is a disgrace but an even bigger disgrace is the cowardice of the mainstream motorsport media who haven't gone into bat for their colleague.
When Bernie tried this with a US reporter at Indy the entire US media contingent declared the event black and walked out.
The next morning Bernie was in the Press Centre making a grovelling apology.
BTW there is no such thing as "Freedom of the Press" here in Australia, in fact Australia's media is amongst the most restricted and regimented anywhere in the western world.

If there is one thing the Australian Motoring Press has been good at is toeing the line.

Don't ever expect them (although Brett, you are an exception) to criticise the hands that feed them.

For example, I don't think I have ever read a balanced article in the specialist press about the pros and cons of street circuits and the effect they have on permanent facilities.

[Crash Test]

Originally Posted by chavez

For example, I don't think I have ever read a balanced article in the specialist press about the pros and cons of street circuits and the effect they have on permanent facilities.

There was an interview with Foges and TC in AA a few weeks ago that made for some very interesting reading and raised a few points...

[Just Do It!]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

Actually the MCG is not privately owned it is crown land administered by a Government appointed trust and it's use was deeded to the Melbourne Cricket Club by the Government back in late 1800s I think.
Either way V8SC treatment of Peter McKay and others that don't tow the party line is a disgrace but an even bigger disgrace is the cowardice of the mainstream motorsport media who haven't gone into bat for their colleague.
When Bernie tried this with a US reporter at Indy the entire US media contingent declared the event black and walked out.
The next morning Bernie was in the Press Centre making a grovelling apology.
BTW there is no such thing as "Freedom of the Press" here in Australia, in fact Australia's media is amongst the most restricted and regimented anywhere in the western world.

So you have put a blanket ban on covering all V8 Supercar news effective from the moment Mr Mckay was denied access to the race track??

[bazil]

Quote:
Originally Posted by inpitlane
Actually the MCG is not privately owned it is crown land administered by a Government appointed trust and it's use was deeded to the Melbourne Cricket Club by the Government back in late 1800s I think.
Either way V8SC treatment of Peter McKay and others that don't tow the party line is a disgrace but an even bigger disgrace is the cowardice of the mainstream motorsport media who haven't gone into bat for their colleague.
When Bernie tried this with a US reporter at Indy the entire US media contingent declared the event black and walked out.
The next morning Bernie was in the Press Centre making a grovelling apology.
BTW there is no such thing as "Freedom of the Press" here in Australia, in fact Australia's media is amongst the most restricted and regimented anywhere in the western world.

Originally Posted by Just Do It!

So you have put a blanket ban on covering all V8 Supercar news effective from the moment Mr Mckay was denied access to the race track??