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2 Mar 2014, 10:02 (Ref:3373966) | #1 | |
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Clipsal Safety Car Infringements & Penalties
The driving standards are all ex drivers in the main games as far as I'm aware MW never drove in the main game cant we have an ex driver in his role ?
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Hopefully its Mel McLaughlin next year on #10
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2 Mar 2014, 10:42 (Ref:3373978) | #3 | |
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Im talog about Matthew White who Mark Dutton was speaking to
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Matt White is operations, not driving standards. The restart penalties were fact based apparently not anything to do with driving stanards. I agree that driving standards should always be ex drivers.
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How about Damien White?
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2 Mar 2014, 10:59 (Ref:3373989) | #6 | |
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Yeah him But I'm sure there are other that could fill his spot - who is driving standards now McConkers has moved on ? Tim Schencken has done a great job but he needs to move on to - the last time he raced Warick Farm was accepting cars not horses |
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2 Mar 2014, 11:22 (Ref:3373991) | #7 | |
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Why would we want a driver who is tainted by a team in this role
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2 Mar 2014, 15:25 (Ref:3374040) | #8 | |
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I thought Bargs was the DSO now?
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2 Mar 2014, 16:54 (Ref:3374055) | #9 | |
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I jumped to this thread thinking we were going to be giving the commentator a hard time but instead discover the vitriol is intended for an official. Us keyboard warriors are good at that. I reckon a good start to laying into someone is to get their name right!
FWIW I felt more comfortable with the svg penalty after White (damien) explained it but am confused by his reference to" assumption" in making the decision. As for whether or not he has raced in the main game he has done a few bathurst 1000s. He crashed badly in qualifying racing for bjr one year remember. On the v8 website he writes a column and his profile also says he has won 2 ute championships and 2 bathurst 12 hour races. So we should have some respect for his ability to understand how it works. As someone said Jason Bargawanna is the dso now. I think white is the messenger. |
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@ the OP for getting the names wrong, not knowing who the DSO is, jesus the commentators must have said both names about 20 times each over the weekend
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Agree Trev. :- DSO is BARG'S DAMIEN WHITE is message boy / official MATT WHITE is tv talking head is that clearing everything up so everybody gets the names right.
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Matt White is also a DVS team owner.
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....and the HRT cars are painted in a matt white finish : )
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The Nissan wing is huge. Sports Sedan esk. From front on you can hardly see the wing on the VF, FG and AMG but it's pretty obvious on the Nissan. From the rear view, the gap from the top of the boot to the bottom edge of the wing is also massive on the Nissan compared to the others. Last edited by NinnyMan; 4 Mar 2014 at 05:57. |
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Mercedes Benz were using wind tunnels in the 1950's to design the Ulerhardt Coupe and others V8SC dont use one at all
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The man himself speaks:
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In all honesty, it probably doesn't matter until the topic title is fixed.
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Pretty simple case, the rules say you have to stay between 50km/h and 60km/h and the front two cars drifted above that.... I'm sure if that weren't the case there'd be a press release and some data traces in the news today.... I'm kind of thinking the DSO got it right.
That said, I assume White is in some sort of CRO position... and from the looks of things he handled himself pretty well. All in all, looks like a good call from the DSO, handled well by the CRO... if you're looking for people that could have done a better job, it's the monkeys in the commentary box who obviously forgot about the 60km/h speed limit. |
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Did they? Damian White didn't seem to sure, they should of held off with their penalty until the downloaded the data from the cars concerned, then IF they were at fault then hit them for some points.
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If you've got evidence that suggests otherwise lay it on the table. If they got a radar gun on the leader, which is logical given the way the rule is written, then why treat it any different to a pit lane speeding infringement? Not sure how White being unsure changes anything, he's neither the guy making the decision or the guy doing the measuring.... I'm sure he was oblivious to where Moffat tapped Holdsworth, doesn't mean it didn't happen. |
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It is a constant puzzle to me how Damien ever got to where he is having known him from his karting days.
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everyone and I mean everyone has to start somewhere, then we build our knowledge as we go, we weren't all born with superior knowledge on the career path of our choice
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Must admit Casper I, like you, have have been constantly puzzled since you chose to post this comment? Perhaps you would be so kind as to enlighten me and indeed all of us in here exactly what you meant? Are you suggesting he drove a go kart to one of V8SC's most senior position with out the aid of a Sat Nav? Or was it a poor and misguided attempt to insult Mr White and his ability to do his job? I look forward to your explanation?
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The start process is flawed:
You must drive between 50-60km/h, irrespective of what the car in front is doing. If he accidentally goes about 60km/h you must not follow him, as you will both be penalised. But in the scenario when the first 2 drivers creep above 60km/h as we had in the weekend, the 3rd driver must sit at 60km/h until the acceleration zone, when he can then accelerate. But if the first 2 cars didn't creep above 60km/h the 3rd car can accelerate when they do, which will actually be before the acceleration zone for the 3rd car. I know my explanation is getting confusing, but imagine the first 20 cars creep up to 80km/h and leave the last 5 trailing behind. If the 21st driver has enough will power to resist going over 60km/h he has to wait until the AZ to accelerate (which will be a long time and the first 20 cars will be long gone by then). So not only is it a stupid rule, you have the drivers having to watch their speed, their gear selection, the revs they are doing, the car in front and the acceleration zone sign. It is just ridiculous. |
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