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Old 9 Jan 2004, 12:18 (Ref:832570)   #1
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Williams step up a gear

Williams has go back to a Seven speed gear box. To give them more flexibility in gear ratios.

However, what impressed me is that they have achieved this while keeping similar dimensions and weight. (they went for six last year to keep these figures down). This is in Autosport 9/1/03.

Also I was wondering how many gears the others have? I am sure Ferrari is a seven speed box and I think McLaren is, but I am unsure about the others.

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Old 9 Jan 2004, 12:19 (Ref:832574)   #2
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i think Jaguar had a 7...not sure though
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Old 9 Jan 2004, 12:22 (Ref:832577)   #3
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Pretty sure seven is usual, with very few exceptions... Renault had six, not sure what they are doing this year.
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Old 9 Jan 2004, 12:33 (Ref:832585)   #4
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Ferrari, Renault, Sauber, Toyota, Jaguar, BAR, Jordan and McLaren all had a 7-speed gearbox on their 2003 cars.

Only Minardi had a 6-speed gearbox.

Strange though, all the databases say that Williams had a 7-speed gearbox last year...

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Old 9 Jan 2004, 12:58 (Ref:832607)   #5
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i always thought Williams had a 7-speed box :confused: :confused:
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Old 9 Jan 2004, 13:13 (Ref:832617)   #6
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Renault had a 6 speed at least until July of last year. I know they ran 6 speed box at the British GP this year. They made public there concerns about indy as they wouldn't have 7th as a really long gear for the straight.
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Old 9 Jan 2004, 13:32 (Ref:832637)   #7
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I thought that Williams had seven last year, but They make a big deal of the change in Autosport (the panel on p27, for anyone who has a copy).
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Old 9 Jan 2004, 13:50 (Ref:832650)   #8
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I heard that too, seven gearbox last year. Maybe they'll turn up with an eight gearbox, and surprise everyone.

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Old 9 Jan 2004, 14:23 (Ref:832686)   #9
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I think the rules limit the number of gears to a maximum of seven
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Old 9 Jan 2004, 14:48 (Ref:832707)   #10
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LOL adam.
I thought the thread was about testing times
Last week someone had one titles 'maclaren on fire' which i also thought was about testing....

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BMW have had a lot of involvement in this gearbox. So we are seeing more integration between the team and engine 'supplier' here. An interesting aside to the actual technical stuff.

Head points out that another side effect is that more gears put less strain on the engine. It all effects the rest, doesn't it.
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So put a 2 speed diff in the Willie like an old truck... voila a 14 speed gearbox
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Is this seven speed gearbox move a bid to improve engine life or is it to enhance top speed slightly?
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Old 10 Jan 2004, 11:38 (Ref:833455)   #15
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Just to keep things sane.

Otherwise you'd have fully automatic gear boxes with seperate gears for each corner or something. Well, thats my take.

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Old 10 Jan 2004, 12:39 (Ref:833488)   #16
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BMW have had a lot of involvement in this gearbox. So we are seeing more integration between the team and engine 'supplier' here. An interesting aside to the actual technical stuff.

Head points out that another side effect is that more gears put less strain on the engine. It all effects the rest, doesn't it.
I actually wouldv liked it much better if they'd let alan jenkins revieuw the technical side of the williams after his questioning of mclarens design.
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