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View Poll Results: What makes us enjoy team-mate duals?
Similar Ability 23 63.89%
Different Personalities 14 38.89%
Different Levels of Experience 7 19.44%
Different Driving Styles 16 44.44%
Dislike for Each Other 11 30.56%
Contentious Incidents in the Past 9 25.00%
Constrasting Backgrounds 5 13.89%
Other (please state) 0 0%
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 11:26 (Ref:835235)   #1
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What Makes an Interesting Team-Mate Dual?

Raikkonen and Montoya at McLaren (assuming it happens) is one of the most anticipated team-mate duals in years, but waht factors make pairings in general so exciting?
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 11:53 (Ref:835254)   #2
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Got to be similar ability. The reason a Kimi/JPM team battle is eagerly anticipated, is the sight of the two drivers pushing eachother and their cars, to get the upper hand.

It will be fascinating to watch, and for F1 nowadays, a rare-ish opportunity to witness two real chargers in the same car.
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 12:11 (Ref:835268)   #3
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not much difference in my opinion watching Ralf and JPM
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 12:27 (Ref:835293)   #4
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A combination of similar abilities, different driving styles and different personalities. (Prost & Senna for example)
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 13:04 (Ref:835328)   #5
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Well if there are two of them, I guess there could be a dual.
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 13:20 (Ref:835343)   #6
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Well if there are two of them, I guess there could be a dual.
OK, I'll change the spelling on the title!
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 13:23 (Ref:835350)   #7
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I voted for all of them.
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 13:30 (Ref:835363)   #8
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 13:52 (Ref:835382)   #9
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like steve_r i voted for all of them, similar talent is importnat (otherwise there wouldn't be much of a duel) but a bit of hostility between team mates is always nice to see.
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 14:54 (Ref:835443)   #10
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I think it's best to have 2 drivers who arrive at the same performance levels walking on different personality/driving style paths.

It's the contrasting methods of producing the best results for close competition that's intriguing.
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 14:55 (Ref:835445)   #11
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not much difference in my opinion watching Ralf and JPM
So you think we'll see JPM beat Kimi by 24 points also
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 15:09 (Ref:835457)   #12
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Old 12 Jan 2004, 21:33 (Ref:835909)   #13
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Get two drivers with similar ability, but with different personalities and backgrounds (support seems to come from personality as much as driving nowadays).
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Old 13 Jan 2004, 08:08 (Ref:836292)   #14
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Get two drivers with similar ability, but with different personalities and backgrounds (support seems to come from personality as much as driving nowadays).
Yep, Kimi and JPM. It's going to be interesting having someone like JPM in the conservative McLaren environment.
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Old 13 Jan 2004, 16:45 (Ref:836871)   #15
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i think that the Massa/Fisi partnership will be good too see, Fisi (who can be fast when he wants too) against Massa (Fast but previously irratic, now with Ferrari training)

My moneys on the revamped Massa, he'll be better with the mechanics than he was, calmer and quicker than ever.
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Old 13 Jan 2004, 17:03 (Ref:836891)   #16
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Interesting poll, indeed
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Old 13 Jan 2004, 18:57 (Ref:836980)   #17
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Different personalities, similar ability, and no contract commanding one of the teammates to give way to the other at all times.
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Old 13 Jan 2004, 19:35 (Ref:837030)   #18
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I went for different driving styles - Prost/Senna, Piquet/Mansell, Villeneuve/Scheckter, Hill/Villeneuve...
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Old 13 Jan 2004, 20:59 (Ref:837114)   #19
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Dislike for eachother, fueled by similar ability usually make the most talked about pairings.

Generally it is a lot less hyped if the two drivers actually appear to like eachother. Hill/Villeneuve or de Ferran/de Castro were closely matched, and fought for championships, but there could've been a lot more to talk about if they had hated eachothers guts in the same fashion as Mansell/Piquet or Senna/Prost.
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Old 13 Jan 2004, 21:42 (Ref:837160)   #20
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I reckon all on the list are good one's.

I must admit I loved the Button - Villeneuve stuff last year especially when Button won through - I guess that would come from a one-sided dislike issue.

I guess where Minardi are concerned it comes down to who pays the most!
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Old 15 Jan 2004, 11:07 (Ref:839086)   #21
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Voted different driving styles. There's more than one way to skin a cat. It is remarkable how te tortoise and the hare principle can lead to a similar points haul.
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Old 15 Jan 2004, 14:09 (Ref:839249)   #22
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Total dedication to beating the team mate coupled with total respect for your team mate.
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Old 15 Jan 2004, 22:55 (Ref:839736)   #23
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Sounds good Adam!

All of the above can help, but I reckon similar ability has to be the main one. That, and a willingness on the part of each driver to battle the other and a team willing to let them.
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Total dedication to beating the team mate coupled with total respect for your team mate.
Admirable, if rare.

Clark/Hill, 1967?

Lauda/Prost, 1984?

Prost/Hill, 1993?

No, I admit it, I'm struggling.
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I reckon teammates that work well together, e.g Alonso, Trulli and Panis, da Matta are good for the team, they work OFF each other, not against each other.
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