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10 Mar 2004, 14:17 (Ref:900892) | #1 | ||
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I/Os check cards
As a new Incident officer i have heard there is a briefing check list/Cards that can be used as a guide.
ie...how to intruduce yourself on post and things to go over with the team. Has anyone got a copy or can send me a copy I would be most thankfull |
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10 Mar 2004, 15:43 (Ref:900965) | #2 | ||
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I have one!
Although these are only a rough guide, they are quite good. As you become more experienced as an IO you will be able to "Tailor" you briefings according to the post/circuit you're at along with your experience of both. PM me with your address and I will send it to you!! Mark |
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I found the check cards quite useful for my first year as IO but as Observer says, after a while you will develop your own 'style' of briefing adapted to the circuit you are at. My only advice is not to use the cards while you are actually delivering your briefing, just have a quick glance through before hand.
The main part of the briefing should be to make sure the team know you are the IO and what you expect them to do. Most will be experienced marshals and so its more a case of seperating them into teams and making sure they understand how YOU want them to work in the event of an accident. I found the hardest part was not to get involved personally in clear ups. After many years it very difficult to adopt an overview of the situation and to manage others. Good luck and I'm sure it will go really well. |
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thanks for advice yes i find it hard not to get involved in incidents.
like i said just need some guide lines |
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10 Mar 2004, 16:10 (Ref:900987) | #5 | |
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You know where everything is. Don't get dead. |
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You really should have instructed your "Team" at the GP to "Go get that chap orf the track"!! |
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What, and miss out on all the fun!!!
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10 Mar 2004, 16:54 (Ref:901023) | #8 | ||
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Hi Nighthawk,
You can ask Steve Caswell for his. He's never used it!! Remember, its only a checklist don't read it to the troops Ian |
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anyway us combe marshalls know what we are doing who needs to be told
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But NOT me !! seriously though, as a Hillclimb I/O and Circuit "bod", there are many different types of I/O's and they all have differing ways of running their team. The briefing allows us "bods" to understand just what an I/O wants and how much they will allow us to "get-on-with-it" as apposed to "wait-for-me, then-we'll-deal-with-it". Either way works for me, no probs there, but......... the team does have to understand just what "rules" are being applied on any given day. |
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I do remember being promoted to I/O for the first time at Donington. Having arrived to find a hugely experienced crew my briefing was 'You all know at least as much as me, so carry on...'
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The art to briefing is tailoring to the crew around you, and taking into account the 'observers' requirements. It is allways worth while spending a few minutes discussing with the Observer what you 'both' want.
Good luck with the briefings, they say it gets easier, still waiting though after three years!!! Mick |
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Nice one Micky-H
Soemtimes an IO will do his briefing and then maybe offer the stage to the Observer for his or her two-penneth worth. If the Observer was awake during the briefing, he might just add a few comments of his own or from the organisers of the meeting. If the observer was not paying attention to the IO briefing (And it DOES happen unfortunately) then you might get a repeat of what you've just heard! Ideally, the IO & Observer will have a brief chat prior to the main Briefing, so that they are both singing from the same hymnm sheet! That way, you will only need ONE briefing - hence more time for morning coffee/doughnuts/both! |
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[QUOTE]Irish IO Briefing: You know where everything is. Don't get dead. A pithy summing up of the essentials. I shall plagiarise it shamelessly. Regards Jim |
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Nice one Jim!!
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You chose not to listen!
I thought that "If It Crashes - Deal With It" was sufficient!! Last edited by Mark Mitchell; 11 Mar 2004 at 13:02. |
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Ooooohhh I remember THAT bit - I just didn't realise it was a briefing, simply an indication not to wake you up from your nap!
Although I do remember one occasion when a marshal on the next post said "that's it, I'm taking a break - I don't want to know about it unless it's upside down in the middle of the circuit and on fire". Guess what happened about 3 minutes later......... Anyway, getting back to IO briefings, I'm a recipient. Mainly what I want to know is how the IO wants the post to work, who's doing what (electrics, driver, etc.) and if it's a circuit I've never been to before (or a post I've never been to before) what I should be expecting. If it's a new circuit, directions to the nearest loo are also welcome! Last edited by EvilPumpkin; 11 Mar 2004 at 13:07. |
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I have a huge apology to make! I checked last night in my licence holder for the IO Briefing Card but it would appear that I've lost it! May be I ate it? So folks, coz of me we're back to square 1 I even wrote your address on the envelope ready to post it.......sorry old chap! I'm sure someone will be more help than I have (not) been!! Last edited by Mark Mitchell; 11 Mar 2004 at 13:10. |
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I'll have a look in my race bag over the weekend. I used to have one lying around somewhere (the card not the race bag)
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11 Mar 2004, 20:12 (Ref:902319) | #23 | ||
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I think the best breifings are the ones that might tell you things you've heard hundreds of times before, but in a way that you don't mind hearing again.
Just a thought, easier said than done I grant you. |
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11 Mar 2004, 21:06 (Ref:902405) | #24 | ||
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Thats alright Mark thanks for looking and offering.
All is not lost. I've been reading all comments and have got some good tips to help on my way. Woolley I know the feeling i was on post at last years DTM meeting at Donnington as I/O and the whole team was made up of I/Os, no need for beifing we all just got on and enjoyed the day But thanks guys you all been a great help |
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