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Old 15 Apr 2005, 08:40 (Ref:1278654)   #1
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A new timetable for this FPA meeting has recently been released.

The Maranello Challenge Ferrari races have been 'merged' with the Global GT Lights - that will be fun; they could be the 'Little and Large' races ...
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Old 15 Apr 2005, 09:12 (Ref:1278690)   #2
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It's on the long track and I assume they will start split grids so they ought to be able to spread out. Off the top of my head the performance difference shouldn't be that great...
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Old 15 Apr 2005, 18:40 (Ref:1279123)   #3
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This actually looks like a very good meeting.

It appears to be about the same quality as the F3 meetings (But without the F3's!!)

Flying Muppet - what are the Marshalling numbers looking like, considering it's the full circuit?
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It appears to be about the same quality as the F3 meetings (But without the F3's!!)
Can't be bad!
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Old 19 Apr 2005, 10:55 (Ref:1281968)   #5
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Flying Muppet - what are the Marshalling numbers looking like, considering it's the full circuit?
Sorry; crystal ball has suffered a power failure.

Also, just to re-iterate again, the Ferraris and Global GT Lights have been un-merged (at MSV's request, not by BRSCC) causing the 0830 start.

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Also, just to re-iterate again, the Ferraris and Global GT Lights have been un-merged (at MSV's request, not by BRSCC) causing the 0830 start.
Any ideas why MSV requested this? At the risk of opening a huge can of worms, is it anything to do with them?
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Old 19 Apr 2005, 15:45 (Ref:1282224)   #7
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This actually looks like a very good meeting.

It appears to be about the same quality as the F3 meetings (But without the F3's!!)
That, to me, is good news & bad news! I'm happy not to have the F3s, but we also lose the GTs, which is a shame.

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Take a look at your final instructions.....there's a list of those who've volunteered on there!
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If only they had arrived ....
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Well said bluebeard.

I too am sick and tired of pathetically small grids. Personally I don't care about any other factors which are currently being mooted to 'improve' marshalling, all I want to see is decent racing week in week out...
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Well said bluebeard.

I too am sick and tired of pathetically small grids. Personally I don't care about any other factors which are currently being mooted to 'improve' marshalling, all I want to see is decent racing week in week out...
Very true - it's bad when the spectators stay away - but when diehard motorsport marshals have had enough, it's game over!
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The Provisional Timetable is here!
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The timetable above is now wrong!!!


Please be aware that the first session of the morning (Saturday) will start at 8.30am - Marshal sign on will now be 7.30am to 8.00am
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MM's link above to the provisional timetable NOW shows the new timetable (version 7).

What version will we be on by Friday afternoon?
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hmmmmmm 8.30 start eh? does this comply with local bye-laws???
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Old 19 Apr 2005, 13:36 (Ref:1282103)   #18
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Yes, it is. It is a meeting they are promoting. I can only speculate as to the reasons for the change: I suspect it is because a mixed race is harder to sell and more confusing for punters.
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Yes, it is. It is a meeting they are promoting. I can only speculate as to the reasons for the change: I suspect it is because a mixed race is harder to sell and more confusing for punters.
Sorry, but I can't buy that theory - they're not selling the race, they're selling the meeting. In particular with this meeting they'd be selling the FPA series as a headline act, probably just with the others as "support races". I doubt they'd be any mention of a joint race or otherwise in any publicity for the event. I know you're speculating only though Ian!
I'm wondering in particular if there's technical circuit reasons required for the change (little and large together!) - although if that was the case it would be an issue for the OC surely?
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In particular with this meeting they'd be selling the FPA series as a headline act, probably just with the others as "support races". I doubt they'd be any mention of a joint race or otherwise in any publicity for the event.
I'll check to see what the Autosport ad last week looked like...

Joe Public: "So, that's a Ferrari... but what's that funny looking thing? And why are they racing together?"

For new spectators, two grids on track at the same time would not be a good thing.

Of course my speculation could be way out - I would suspect we will never know!
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I can only speculate as to the reasons for the change: I suspect it is because a mixed race is harder to sell and more confusing for punters.
The changes also mean that both the Global Lights & the Maranello Challenge now have their two races on the same day; may be significant, possibly not.........
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Sorry but I would rather see a full grid of mixed cars than two tiny grids of single type cars. MSV should think about what they are doing.
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They have, and made a decision (although if for the reasons given above I do not know). Even if they had taken part in the same race it would have been from two separate grids almost certainly, not one mixed one.
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just hope theres decent size grids for the ferraris and global lights otherwise why split them? poor grids would be guaranteed way to put spectators off not to mention marshals & especially on international circuit! if small grids given the earlier start we'll be able to have a sleep to catch up between each lap!
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one of the guys at work is driving in the FPA series this year. As i'm off sick atm i'll see if i can email him and find out if he knows the reasons behind the changes...
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