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8 May 2006, 16:48 (Ref:1603492) | #1 | ||
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Hamilton enters frame for '07 McLaren seat
Lewis Hamilton's dominance of GP2 over the weekend has reportedly made Ron think a bit more seriously about adding him to the shortlist for the second McLaren seat.
He says they aim to have the best drivers available and Lewis has only added to those options (or something like that) If a younger driver really excels then why shouldn't he step straight into a top seat... I know traditionally, it hardly ever happens but if he continues to sweep up this year then it would be daft to waste him in an uncompetitive car when he could do a good job straight away? If he doesn't get a McLaren race drive what are the other racing options open to him that will allow Ron to hang onto him rather than let him go on a contract he's not in control of elsewhere? |
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8 May 2006, 16:53 (Ref:1603500) | #2 | ||
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I would agree that there is no reason why Lewis Hamilton shouldn't get a McLaren seat, however, Ron Dennis has traditonally expressed reticence towards putting a rookie into one of his cars; I think Andrea de Cesaris, Michael Andretti and Jan Magnussen are the exceptions, neither can be considered a success. So therefore a seat in a more mid table team is perhaps a little more likely.
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8 May 2006, 16:58 (Ref:1603503) | #3 | ||
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For a new driver to enter F1 an established driver has to leave F1 not just the team...I don't see it happening. Paffett is also in the wings too remember.
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True, but I think there'll be a fair few people making way in several teams at the end of the season, judging by their current respective woes.
I rate Gary highly and he ought to have a race drive next year too, but are McLaren or Mercedes viewing his long term path in the same way as they are with Lewis? |
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8 May 2006, 22:35 (Ref:1603794) | #5 | |
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Also, Mercedes must be mindful of Schumi, Frentzen, Wendlinger, Webber all of whom got a serious legup in sportscars, only to leave them... A seat at direxiv (if it happens) or Prodrive (when it happens) may prove possible don't you think? Still begs the question of how to keep him for 2007 (because someone good has to leave, really, no?) because he may just win GP2
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9 May 2006, 00:05 (Ref:1603832) | #6 | |
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Nico's rather smooth transition (to date) can only be good for the other GP2 guys. Perhaps, this will prompt that Lewis get a shot sooner rather than later. Lets face it, all the teams and team principals are dreaming of signing the next star and the first place you look should be right under your nose; grab a guy before someone else does. Nico did not get much publicity before his signing with Williams, but he looks like he has the goods.
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Good point. DC out but Ant, Lewis or Gary in? |
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I just hope the man doesn't hold him down.
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In modern F1 there is far too much for a rookie driver it learn, for having them in a top team to be a logical approach. Not only the driving, but the thinking-on-your-feet tactics, the extra press intrusion, knowing when not to push too hard, and several new cirucits to learn (even for a driver who has been in GP2). Midfield teams, especially Jordan and Sauber, have tended to have the most successes with rookie drivers. Perhaps there is something in Ron's mentality which makes him very risk-averse with new drivers though. Probably something called Andrea de Crasharis.
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9 May 2006, 09:10 (Ref:1604038) | #10 | ||
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Nico has had 3 offs in 5 races, and the one in Melbourne wasn't his fault. That's compared to Ant having 2 in 2 races at Minardi. Everybody makes a few mistakes early in their career, even Michael did. Coonsidering the amount of mechanical failures Williams have had, I don't think they can get better results than they've been picking up.
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But this thread is about Hamilton, he might be the talk of the British press understandably talking him up, desperate for a national front runner, but by Lewis's own admission he isn't getting into the McLaren team straight from GP2. |
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9 May 2006, 09:11 (Ref:1604039) | #12 | |
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Dream team: Alonso & Hamilton.
Paffet? nice guy, good driver, not in the same league IMO |
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9 May 2006, 17:45 (Ref:1604444) | #13 | |
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Rennen, its unrealistic that you consider Davidson to be on the same skill level as Nico and Lewis. I know that he is your son and all....
Clearly if Davidson was THAT good he'd already have a drive. With Honda no less. Star quality us obvious to all without blinkers, and those with blinkers are always the minority. I rate Davidson exactly as a Luca Badoer type of driver (no shame in that~wish it was me). basically, an excellent test driver. Last edited by Frank_White; 9 May 2006 at 17:47. |
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9 May 2006, 20:22 (Ref:1604535) | #14 | ||
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I think Lewis is a class act and those wins were excellent, however its early days yet and lots of the season left. Lets see how things look at the end of the season. If he carries on like this i expect he will be in F1 somewhere in 2007.
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9 May 2006, 21:46 (Ref:1604632) | #15 | |
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I'm not sure there was anything "super" about Blundell's time spent in F1.
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10 May 2006, 13:48 (Ref:1605111) | #16 | ||
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Well, in 1995 he got 13 points from 14 races, having started the season without a drive - team-mate Hakkinen got 17 from 14 races, having already been with the team for 2 years. The previous year he outscored team-mate Katayama 8-5. Not a terrible record by any means.
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Blundell had good money in Formula Ford but ran F3000 on a shoestring and got himself into Formula 1. Was never considered a real frontline driver but did pretty well with what he had and certainly didn't disgrace himself.
Hamilton has had good funding in pretty well every formula and has produced the goods in all of them. I can see, given the breaks (which he is highly likely to get) he'll do the same in F1. I'd rather see the likes of Hamilton, & Piquet etc given a shot at F1 (like Rosberg) and lose some of those past their best. |
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In terms of pure pace I don't remember him ever outqualifying Hakkinen and I think Katayama was faster than him as well more often than not. |
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Well, they both had 15 races (not 14).
Blundell out-qualifed Mika in the Portuguese GP (12th to 13th). This made it 14-1 in Mika's favour. I may be wrong on these accounts, but I don't think so. |
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But you're right about Blundell outqualifying Hakkinen in Portugal. |
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***** Anyway, regarding the topic in question, I would be surprised if Hamilton leapt straight into Mclaren. Dennis has made it pretty clear he would want to farm him out for a season or two. Having said that, though, if Hamilton is stunning for the remainder of the GP2 season...then, well, perhaps he might change his mind. Perhaps if the rumours of the Mercedes buy-out run true in the remainder of this season, then we will see them promote Lewis? I dunno...I would be very surprised if we see Hamilton in a Mclaren in 2007, but in F1 in some capacity...that is certainly possible. |
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Quickly re the Blundell stuff - he apparently had a 'weight' penalty against Ukyo in '95 and whilst the chassis was ok, the Judd/Yamaha was bit short on puff as I recall.
Nice to see some of you guys supporting 'Mega' - I don't think he got the right breaks at the top - defo one of those guys who eventually got shot with right team but at totally the wrong time ( a la Steve Johnson, Johnny Herbert, Jean Alesi etc, etc). Senna thought he was pretty good with speed and feedback whilse testing at McLaren in '91 IIRC. There are certain similarities in career and style with Paffet I reckon. Back to Lewis - I would day that if he manages to dominate rest of the season, or pulls off some highly memorable races as he did in Nurby that will only add to his rep. On that basis if McLaren don't get a name or ace to stay/join Alonso then he may well end up top of the list - name aside why pay Williams big buskcs to sign Rosberg when they could 'promote' Lewis, whom they already know well anayway? |
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Hamilton is the topic yea?
montoya likely out- any chance toyota would want hiM? i don't see him going to a smaller budget team yet. Kimi and alonso at Maclaren- hailton as friday driver, or a mercedes prodrive junior squad? hamilton race seat! (any idea wht engines prodrive will use?) |
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