2013 Road to Indy (Indy Lights, Pro Mazda, USF2000)

NaBUru38 · 20 Dec 2012, 17:59 (Ref:3180466)

2013 Indy Lights schedule:

March 23-24: St Petersburg
April 6-7: Barber
April 20-21: Long Beach
May 24: Indianapolis
June 14-15: Milwaukee
June 22-23: Iowa
July 6-7: Pocono
July 12-13: Toronto
August 3-4: Mid-Ohio
September 1: Baltimore
October 5-6: Houston
October 19: Fontana

(Only Detroit, Texas and Sonoma are missing. The Trois Riviéres GP Has been dropped too.)

2013 Pro Mazda schedule TBA

2013 USF2000 schedule:

o- Winterfest
February 5-6: Sebring
February 9-10: Palm Beach

o- Championship
March 15-14: Sebring (ALMS)
March 23-24: St Petersburg
May 25: Indianapolis (USAC Midgets)
July 12-13: Toronto
August 3-4: Mid-Ohio
September 6-7: Laguna Seca (Grand-Am)
October 5-6: Houston

**gomick** · 23 Dec 2012, 04:27 (Ref:3181271)

Is Star Mazda now called Pro Mazda?

mountainstar · 23 Dec 2012, 23:17 (Ref:3181490)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomick

Is Star Mazda now called Pro Mazda?

Star Mazda went bust and who knows how long "Pro Mazda" will last or even make it to the starting grid.

NaBUru38 · 24 Dec 2012, 20:38 (Ref:3181718)

Andresen Promotions took over. That's the USF2000 folks. They know how to fill a grid.

**gomick** · 26 Dec 2012, 11:14 (Ref:3181956)

Is it really necessary to have both Pro Mazda & USF2000? Cars lap within 2 to 3 seconds of each other....

NaBUru38 · 26 Dec 2012, 18:03 (Ref:3182023)

It's a ladder, right?

**gomick** · 26 Dec 2012, 19:50 (Ref:3182042)

Really? Harsh economic times these days & grids are hard to fill. Would it be less expensive for driverz to achieve there goal if they drove in 2 "LADDER" series than 3?

mountainstar · 27 Dec 2012, 00:31 (Ref:3182104)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Andresen Promotions took over. That's the USF2000 folks. They know how to fill a grid.

That should solve everything.

USF2000 hasn't been a huge success.

It all comes down to money and interest in spending that money on a ladder series to nowhere, regardless of what the cars or series are.

NaBUru38 · 11 Jan 2013, 14:34 (Ref:3187756)

2013 Pro Mazda schedule:

March 1-2: Austin (Grand-Am)
March 23-24: St Petersburg
May 25: Indianapolis Raceway (USAC Midgets)
June 14-15: Milwaukee
July 12-13: Toronto
July 20-21: Mosport (ALMS)
August 3-4: Mid-Ohio
August 10-11: Trois-Rivieres (Nascar Canada)
October 5-6: Houston

2013 Mazda Road to Indy schedule:

February 5-6: Sebring (USF2000 Winterfest)
February 9-10: Palm Beach (USF2000 Winterfest)

March 1-2: Austin (Pro Mazda)
March 15-14: Sebring (USF2000)
March 23-24: St Petersburg (Indy Lights, Pro Mazda, USF2000)
April 6-7: Barber (Indy Lights)
April 20-21: Long Beach (Indy Lights)
May 24-25: Indianapolis (Indy Lights, Pro Mazda, USF2000)
June 14-15: Milwaukee (Indy Lights, Pro Mazda)
June 22-23: Iowa (Indy Lights)
July 6-7: Pocono (Indy Lights)
July 12-13: Toronto (Indy Lights, Pro Mazda, USF2000)
July 20-21: Mosport (Pro Mazda)
August 3-4: Mid-Ohio (Indy Lights, Pro Mazda, USF2000)
August 10-11: Trois-Rivieres (Pro Mazda)
September 1: Baltimore (Indy Lights)
September 6-7: Laguna Seca (USF2000)
October 5-6: Houston (Indy Lights, Pro Mazda, USF2000)
October 19: Fontana (Indy Lights)

**bjohnsonsmith** · 8 Feb 2013, 21:53 (Ref:3201425)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainstar

Star Mazda went bust and who knows how long "Pro Mazda" will last or even make it to the starting grid.

A Rose by any other name.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 8 Feb 2013, 21:54 (Ref:3201426)

Did Dallara get the Lights contract?

NaBUru38 · 9 Feb 2013, 14:17 (Ref:3201780)

No news on the new Indy Lights car yet. I guess that with the executive changes, this will take one more year.

HJJ · 14 Feb 2013, 22:43 (Ref:3204920)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

No news on the new Indy Lights car yet. I guess that with the executive changes, this will take one more year.

Delayed.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ngine-delayed/

mountainstar · 15 Feb 2013, 03:27 (Ref:3205064)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJJ

Delayed.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ngine-delayed/

Says it all:

The lack of professionalism has been alarming

It's typical of the series and it's ownership and it's why the whole circus is swirling in the toilet bowl.

With the "Road to Indy" nearly dead, single car counts in lights and the mazda series barely alive and FF2000 the same, it doesn't bode well for the future.

Someone is about the push the toilet handle for one last flush.

**joeb** · 16 Feb 2013, 02:14 (Ref:3205663)

I do get the feeling that things are being made more complicated than they need to be. I think choosing Dallera for the Indy chassis was a bad choice, and now not choosing anybody for the lights chassis....wow, just wow.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Feb 2013, 14:49 (Ref:3205873)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJJ

Delayed.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ngine-delayed/

Nothing new there then.

Apart from Gil de Ferran's chassis, pictured below, what other contenders are there?

I assume Dallara are in the running?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Feb 2013, 15:01 (Ref:3205876)

According to this,

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99864,

one of the criteria for the new Indy Lights car will be the potential to integrate an alternative fuel source. Natural gas anyone?

**joeb** · 16 Feb 2013, 21:03 (Ref:3205972)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Nothing new there then.

Apart from Gil de Ferran's chassis, pictured below, what other contenders are there?

I assume Dallara are in the running?

There have been quite a few companies in the running, Yes, I think Dallara were involved, and the Deltawing, a Dyson led group, a Herta led group and Swift.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...s-pending//P2/

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Feb 2013, 21:22 (Ref:3205977)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

There have been quite a few companies in the running, Yes, I think Dallara were involved, and the Deltawing, a Dyson led group, a Herta led group and Swift.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...s-pending//P2/

There are some nice looking cars here that really put the ugly DW12 to shame. I hope they don't chose Dallara again. It would be great to see IndyCar support and promote some homegrown engineering talent.

Dyson.

Herta, Newey, Mygale.

Swift

The Dyson drawing looks suspiciously like the drawing for Lola's proposed IndyCar that was rejected by the ICONIC committee.

Roll on 2015.

mountainstar · 16 Feb 2013, 23:29 (Ref:3206016)

Doesn't sound to me that any of this is going anywhere soon.

The Mazda series went bust last year, only to have the pieces picked up by another company with no assurance of any grid of cars for next year.

The lights series can barely put 10 cars out there and USF2000 can barely get a field together.

Reality is tightening it's grip on this crowd.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 17 Feb 2013, 09:13 (Ref:3206097)

Now the new lights car has been pushed back to 2015, it doesn't bode well at all.

mountainstar · 17 Feb 2013, 17:51 (Ref:3206252)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Now the new lights car has been pushed back to 2015, it doesn't bode well at all.

It's just another sign the family is running out of money and can't continue to subsidize the existence of the sport.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 17 Feb 2013, 18:16 (Ref:3206261)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainstar

It's just another sign the family is running out of money and can't continue to subsidize the existence of the sport.

I would say it's just another sign of a serious lack in leadership; this should have been addressed a long time ago but like IndyCar in general things have just been left to stagnate and this is the result.

NaBUru38 · 19 Feb 2013, 13:39 (Ref:3207307)

That Lola is one of the most beautiful cars in the history of motorsport.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 19 Feb 2013, 16:40 (Ref:3207383)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

That Lola is one of the most beautiful cars in the history of motorsport.

Shame it never left the drawing board, instead we got the DW 12.

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