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Old 13 Jun 2005, 02:02 (Ref:1326933)   #1
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Conspiracy theorists...

...I have a few questions.

1) Why would a team pay a driver many millions of dollars a year (although I hear that they ask to be paid in Euros these days) to make him lose a race he's winning?

2) Why do people assume the FIA/Ferrari/Ron Dennis/ITV have some evil, ulterior motive behind everything that they do?

3) Why do people think that Juan-Pablo wasn't playing tennis?

I look forward to some interesting replies, feel free to add some more questions - these are just off the top of my head.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 02:33 (Ref:1326942)   #2
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Here are the answers:

1) Nobody would do that.
2) Because it makes for entertaining discussion
3) See answer to 2).
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 02:54 (Ref:1326948)   #3
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Because unfortunately people are just not as trusting these days are they? and sometimes with good reason. I have asked myself if Ferrari are sandbagging a little this year so that the other teams can win races, BUT no that is just silly. We love intrigue, it's a bit like gossip, some people just love it! The FIA and Ferrari well we don't know do we really? some of us just like to THINK that they get away with anything and everything not true I am sure.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 03:16 (Ref:1326953)   #4
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Well......in my case watch alot of movies and things can never be what they seem to be.
It just rubs off.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 03:16 (Ref:1326954)   #5
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the question is...at least in my mind ...when does ferrari start sandbagging to get a third car secured next year?
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 06:53 (Ref:1327050)   #6
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the question is...at least in my mind ...when does ferrari start sandbagging to get a third car secured next year?
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 08:56 (Ref:1327143)   #7
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3. Because some wittness said he saw him, and because it could be true for JPM. I don't think *anyone* would say that for Kimi, MS, RB or sth
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 13:06 (Ref:1327283)   #8
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it would be pretty cool to see ferrari in a position where they could use the 3rd car next season. how the mighty have fallen.

there was talk of DR rejoining BAR and all of a sudden Sato's car has started developing problems again.

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Old 13 Jun 2005, 14:24 (Ref:1327355)   #9
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Some people will always see conspiracies. Whether its the Grassy Knoll, Haliburton or Ron Dennis...

The invisible hand is everywhere!

Carefull, you're being watched right now!
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 16:21 (Ref:1327456)   #10
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Here are the answers:

1) Nobody would do that.
tell that to Barrichello and Coulthard
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 16:29 (Ref:1327462)   #11
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where's the connection between RB and DC? I really don't see it. McLaren always had two equal drivers. Now, if Hakkinen was 40 points ahead, is it unfair for McLaren to support him?
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 21:11 (Ref:1327727)   #12
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ITV said that Montoya missed the pit call...but anyway he got blacked flag so it doesnt matter or Raikkonens engineers could have just called it better
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 21:25 (Ref:1327738)   #13
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 12:23 (Ref:1328237)   #14
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Because unfortunately people are just not as trusting these days are they? and sometimes with good reason.
I think that this is true. Sometimes you hear stories where things have happened and then you feel like any 'coincidence' or event is planned, even if it isn't. Big Business and politicians have tended to help people feel like this and F1 is full of both!

Having said all that, some theories do defy belief. I'm still waiting for the 'wasn't it convenient that Fisi had Hydraulics failure when Alonso was closing on him' comments, though I haven't checked all the ten-tenths threads yet!

As for JPM, I did think that it was odd that he didn't come in, but if they did called him in and he didn't hear correctly, then it's just one of those things.
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 12:30 (Ref:1328248)   #15
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I'm still waiting for the 'wasn't it convenient that Fisi had Hydraulics failure when Alonso was closing on him' comments, though I haven't checked all the ten-tenths threads yet!

There's a whole thread on the Fisico "bad luck"

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68840

And yes, I am one who believes that he has become their number 2 driver. Subject to the luck that a number two always seems to have.
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 14:38 (Ref:1328341)   #16
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Is it possible that some drivers are simply harder on their cars then others and therefore more prone to mechanical problems?
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where's the connection between RB and DC? I really don't see it. McLaren always had two equal drivers. Now, if Hakkinen was 40 points ahead, is it unfair for McLaren to support him?
it was partly a joke.*its hard to read sarcasm*. i saying that both Mclaren and Ferrari have used team tactics when they did'nt have to.
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Old 16 Jun 2005, 17:16 (Ref:1330612)   #18
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And yes, I am one who believes that he has become their number 2 driver. Subject to the luck that a number two always seems to have.
Now that may well be correct. I rate Fisi, but reckon that Alonso is probably the better alround bet. Fisi may well be getting number 2 treatment (though I hope not at this stage), but that doesn't mean that the team would have actually wanted him to retire with the hydraulics problem.
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A conspiracy theory would be that Button threw his BAR into the wall on purpose just to ensure he doesn't make up ground on Alonso, so he's no-where near 75% of the championship leaders points....don't you think it's funny he only hit the wall AFTER Alonso was out of the race...hmmm a smell a conspiracy..no...wait, that's just the pizza I had for lunch. Didn't think conspiracy smelled like vegetarian pizza.
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Now that may well be correct. I rate Fisi, but reckon that Alonso is probably the better alround bet. Fisi may well be getting number 2 treatment (though I hope not at this stage), but that doesn't mean that the team would have actually wanted him to retire with the hydraulics problem.

Of course not! The more points the merrier. At the same time, he is getting No 2 treatment, and I wish Renault would just come clean about it.
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