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31 Oct 2006, 17:02 (Ref:1754555)
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31 Oct 2006, 17:29 (Ref:1754571)
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Probably the only logical outcome.
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31 Oct 2006, 23:11 (Ref:1754824)
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Yep, I'm very surprised.
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31 Oct 2006, 23:24 (Ref:1754830)
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Ferrari have done well to put a positive spin on such a blatant rejection.
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31 Oct 2006, 23:30 (Ref:1754831)
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Yay. Go Webber - the jigsaw pieces are coming together. Now as long as Newey does his bit ..........
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1 Nov 2006, 00:56 (Ref:1754872)
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1 Nov 2006, 01:38 (Ref:1754890)
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Wasn't all this done on Neweys suggestion that a Renault engine would suit his design better ? So in that case i think this will make a difference
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1 Nov 2006, 01:42 (Ref:1754892)
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Yes, it has been reported he liked the packaging better
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1 Nov 2006, 02:09 (Ref:1754896)
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No offense, but I am thinking a number of teams would have liked those crummy old Ferrari engines in their chassis.
This is not so much about "positive spin" as it is Red Bull realizing that trying to ignore the Ferrari contract was going to be very expensive. I am just hoping that both Red Bull chassis' are worthy of the Renault/Ferrari engines. |
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1 Nov 2006, 02:27 (Ref:1754902)
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Chances are RB and STR will use the same tub with their respective engines. Newey has the unenviable task of designing a chassis which will work with both... In today's competitive environment I have to wonder if that will work. I suspect the tub will be optimised for the Renault lump, with the compromises made to accomodate the Ferrari. 'Least I hope so....
STR will 'prolly have unique bodywork/aerodynamics, to dispel the other constructors complaints that RB is fielding 4 nearly identical cars. Add to this mix the entirely new Bridgestone single-spec tires, and you have all the ingredients for a technical disaster. |
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1 Nov 2006, 03:00 (Ref:1754912)
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1 Nov 2006, 04:31 (Ref:1754936)
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what Newey wanted.!!! GO WEBBER GO !!!
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1 Nov 2006, 05:32 (Ref:1754956)
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Alright, go Webber and RBR-R
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1 Nov 2006, 05:36 (Ref:1754960)
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ohh yes GO RBR - Renault.cause Webber can't do much if RBR -Renault don't GO,as we know by this past season
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1 Nov 2006, 10:00 (Ref:1755103)
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Now picture this : RBR-Renault will win races with Webber and win the WDC and WCC against the Renault team and Webber's almighty boss Briatore.
Can you see that happening ? |
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1 Nov 2006, 10:05 (Ref:1755107)
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1 Nov 2006, 10:33 (Ref:1755139)
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Will it be the same v8 specification as Renault are using themselves or an older version?
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1 Nov 2006, 10:34 (Ref:1755140)
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It has to be the same now theyre all frozen and homologated.
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1 Nov 2006, 10:36 (Ref:1755141)
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I think that the engine as a component of the chassis will be less important with a spec tyre than it has been. It may well be that we will see a return to some of what we saw in the '70s in that a team could use a number of engines and be on the same terms as other teams chassis-wise.
It is the aero package that will make the biggest difference in car performance, methinks, in the coming season. |
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1 Nov 2006, 10:44 (Ref:1755146)
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So... Everybody has to to be the same as it is now... or everybody has to have the same engines specs, so Renault and RBR must have the same 2006 engine specs, instead a one year old engine for RBR ?? |
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1 Nov 2006, 10:46 (Ref:1755147)
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So how is that different?
Cosworth was still one of the best engines out there, but that didn't help Williams. The best to the worst motor is only like 30 hp peak difference anyway. Aero is still the king, more's the pity. |
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1 Nov 2006, 12:26 (Ref:1755219)
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How much did it cost Red Bull to switch the Ferrari engines to STR? I cant see Todt agreeing to such a move unless palms were greased.
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probablly a fairly big figure that most off us could only dream to have in our bank accounts.
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