Group A Alfa Romeo 75

[KA]

Great stuff- good to see some of these lovely beasts still actively raced. The 'Telaio' numbers you mention- these are chassis numbers by any chance?

More of the Nick Humphrey car -owned by Kerry Gardiner apparently

http://www.redshoes-archive.com/res/image.php?ID=8569
http://www.redshoes-archive.com/res/image.php?ID=8666
http://www.redshoes-archive.com/res/image.php?ID=8670
http://www.redshoes-archive.com/res/image.php?ID=8677
http://www.redshoes-archive.com/res/image.php?ID=8590

[KA]

...and some more- CIVT (Italian touring cars) 1989 at Monza:

http://www.monzasport.it/public/gall...CIVT890302.jpg

http://www.monzasport.it/public/gall...CIVT890308.jpg

http://www.monzasport.it/public/gall...CIVT891001.jpg

http://www.monzasport.it/public/gall...CIVT891010.jpg

[6Cilindri]

In 1988 Alfa developed a special 75 evo version called IMSA for participating
in the 9th edition of the 'Giro d'Italia' a 1828 km race and rally event throughout Italy. Three cars entered the start, the Patrese-Biasion-
Siviero car took first place and the Loubet-Guerrero car became second. In 1989 the Francia-Cerrato-Cerri car won the tenth edition. Today one of these IMSA's remains at the Alfa museum.

[KA]

That's an impressive beast....

As you mentioned Yves Loubet- going back a couple of years, his Rothmans-backed Group A GTV6 rallycar was replaced by a 75:

http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/20...4_alfa75loubet

http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/20...128108526_1986

[Jesper OH]

As a matter of fact - four variations of the Alfa 75 was homologated

Alfa Romeo Alfa 75 Quadrifoglio
A5300 / 1986.05.01-1996.12.31 / 2492.5 cc

Alfa Romeo Alfa 75 Turbo
A5307 / 1986.08.01-1996.12.31 / 1762.0 cc x 1.4 = 2466.8 cc
From 1988: 1762.0 cc x 1.7 = 2995.4 cc

Alfa Romeo Alfa 75 2.0 Super
A5326 / 1987.02.01-1996.12.31 / 1962.0 cc

Alfa Romeo Alfa 75 V6 3.0
A5350 / 1988.02.01-1996.12.31 / 2959.0 cc

Jesper

[chunterer]

That's an interesting statistic Jesper!!

Most marques hologate one version of one type of model at any time, not four!!!!

I guess the early 2.5 and then the Turbo were mainly for International competition purposes, but the others for domestic purposes mainly?

[Jesper OH]

Guess you could be right about domestic needs. The Italian C.I.V.T. catered for a multitude of classes based on group A and N during the 75 period, but how classes were divided is beyond me.

The 3.0 was used at Spa '88 as mentioned earlier and I know of a pair of group N+ versions in Spain in the early 1990's. As for the 2.0, this version was used in the Dutch touring car series at the same time, also running to a group N'ish rule set. Rallyes might also have been a consideration, as a two litre break was quite common. A weight limit of 880 kg (860 kg from Jan 1988) might be a bit optimistic of the 2.0, but who knows.

Jesper

[Jesper OH]

Originally Posted by 6Cilindri

Great cars. Starting out with 280 hp in 1987 power increased to
more than 440 hp with 18" wheels in the '91 CIVT

Some still racing Alfa Corse Evoluziones

What is the restored 010/#79 supposed to represent. I can find Jean-Louis Schlesser and Jacques Laffite partnering at the 1987 Nürburgring - where 006 was debuted - and again at Spa a short while later, where Paolo Barilla was added.

On another note, I don't remember the black splitter below the front spoiler in period pictures...

Jesper

[6Cilindri]

Originaly posted by Jesper OH:
On another note, I don't remember the black splitter below the front spoiler in period pictures...

I have found some technical info on the 010 chassis.

The black splitters are not original, but with the modern tires being able of much higher load/speed it's a good improvement.

[6Cilindri]

Here is one for sale !

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/sh...e&pageNumber=1

[KA]

European Hillclimb Championship 1988, St. Ursanne in Switzerland. A Luigi Racing-prepped car from the sunstrip...
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimag...iers880007.jpg

[malscar]

Bondy at a very wet Calder in practice

[chunterer]

Cracking shot, just look at that spray!!!!

[Jesper OH]

That's from practice or qualifying for the opening round of the 1987 ATCC, right?

Jesper

[malscar]

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

That's from practice or qualifying for the opening round of the 1987 ATCC, right?

Jesper

Yes. just can not remember if it was practice or qualifying.

[chunterer]

Also what's the car over the other side going in the opposite direction, white and red it looks like?

[Jesper OH]

One of the Isuzu Geminis?

Jesper

[malscar]

Jesper, you are correct, pretty sure the car was owned by a guy whose surname was White. Will need to look into that and also see if I have a shot of him.

[Redlake27]

One of thes turned up in the Alfa Romeo Championship in the UK in 1990. Not sure if it was a turbo or 3 litre, but it was an ETCC spec car driven by Piero Pesaro

[75TB]

Some documentation says there are only the first(?) 25 Evo Cars (of 500) have been rebuild by Alfa Corse as original racecars. Chassinr 1, they say, has been used for testing purposes.

I saw in the forum the chassisnr of Bob vd Sluis (29?) and recently I spotted a chassisnr 28. The chassisnr 28 is stamped on a small plate and not as a nr in the chassis itself as I have seen in some original cars.

Does someone know how chassisnrs 28 and 29 fits in the mentioned 25 cars?

[75evo]

@75TB:

It's the Kuno Schar car that's referred to as chassisnr 029 in a previous post. Bob v/d Sluis' car has the 026 number. Even that is remarkable taking into account the 25 batch which is often mentioned in several historical data/articles.

So I'm also very curious if someone can clarify this. I'm also very interested if someone can tell us more about the 75 Evoluzione Group A cars that were used in the Italian hill climbing and rallys.

[6Cilindri]

Posted by 75evo : It's the Kuno Schar car that's referred to as chassisnr 029 in a previous post. Bob v/d Sluis' car has the 026 number. Even that is remarkable taking into account the 25 batch which is often mentioned in several historical data/articles.

Only in the often quoted article "The 75 : A real racing family" the production number 25 is mentioned. BUT the article says : 'until now there have been 25 chassis' so it is not the definite production number.

Here is a link to the article
http://www.berlinasportivo.com/magaz.../racing75s.php

[Jesper OH]

The article would be written in around 1990 (my guess, which would mean the 75 was still in use as Alfa Romeos main choice of car for the CIVT for another two years.
Just remembered that the 155 Q4 for 1993, was homologated by the Italian ASN as an evolution of the 75 Turbo!

Jesper

[6Cilindri]

Jesper, I think you mean 1992. That year Alfa started with the 155 GTA in the CIVT.

Posted by 75TB : Recently I spotted a chassisnr 28. The chassisnr 28 is stamped on a small plate and not as a nr in the chassis itself as I have seen in some original cars.

75TB could you please tell us some more; where you've spot the car, who is the owner, etc.?

[75TB]

I saw the 75 with chassisnr 28 in Italy in may 2008 when I visited Scuderia del Portello. I done't know if they own the car or if they have the car in mantenance for a customer. I have some pictures of the car, including the chassisnr.