Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition

The Badger · 7 Jun 2011, 17:49 (Ref:2892984)

RLM were just talking to Kaeffer about the Pecom Lola .

Kaeffer said that the idea was to run with a Ferrari engine , but there just wasnt the time to get it done .

Possibily next year then ?

GTfour · 7 Jun 2011, 18:03 (Ref:2892994)

Another interesting rumour I heard on RLM is of a 911 surpassing midengined Porsche...

Sounds logicall since the 911 is about as far streched as possible.

**FIRE** · 7 Jun 2011, 18:15 (Ref:2892998)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

RLM were just talking to Kaeffer about the Pecom Lola .

Kaeffer said that the idea was to run with a Ferrari engine , but there just wasnt the time to get it done .

Possibily next year then ?

Didn't have Vitaphone the same plans last year? But there wasn't enough time...

Le Vieux · 7 Jun 2011, 18:21 (Ref:2893001)

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Originally Posted by GTfour

Another interesting rumour I heard on RLM is of a 911 surpassing midengined Porsche...

Sounds logicall since the 911 is about as far streched as possible.

I think you're probably right about the 911 having reached its limit - but I remember similar stories writing off the 911 in the late Seventies/early Eighties....

broadrun96 · 7 Jun 2011, 19:52 (Ref:2893052)

And I think every Sebring, LM, PLM has had the RLM guys talking about whether it was time for Porsche to put the 911 out to pasture and develop the Cayman for GT2.

The Badger · 7 Jun 2011, 20:05 (Ref:2893056)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Didn't have Vitaphone the same plans last year? But there wasn't enough time...

They had been thinking of dropping a MC12 engine into a Lola , for a P1 .

Nordschleife · 7 Jun 2011, 21:09 (Ref:2893085)

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Originally Posted by GTfour

Another interesting rumour I heard on RLM is of a 911 surpassing midengined Porsche...

Sounds logicall since the 911 is about as far streched as possible.

A 918-based racer is practically official.
http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=603
http://press.porsche.com/news/pdf/91...in_Detroit.pdf

Not a 911 replacement, however.

AGD · 7 Jun 2011, 22:21 (Ref:2893122)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

RLM were just talking to Kaeffer about the Pecom Lola .

Kaeffer said that the idea was to run with a Ferrari engine , but there just wasnt the time to get it done .

Possibily next year then ?

Probably. Level 5 and the rumored Rob Kauffman/Michael Waltrip team are also rumored to be interested in the Ferrari LMP2 engine. Who knows where the Waltrip team will end up though and I have a feeling that Level 5 may try to move up to LMP1 at some point, but who knows.

**FIRE** · 7 Jun 2011, 22:24 (Ref:2893124)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

And I think every Sebring, LM, PLM has had the RLM guys talking about whether it was time for Porsche to put the 911 out to pasture and develop the Cayman for GT2.

So far Porsche never wanted to use the Cayman in racing. It made even live hard for teams that wanted to race it.

**FIRE** · 7 Jun 2011, 22:27 (Ref:2893126)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

They had been thinking of dropping a MC12 engine into a Lola , for a P1 .

You are right. My mistake.

arakis · 7 Jun 2011, 23:47 (Ref:2893164)

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Originally Posted by Nordschleife

A 918-based racer is practically official.
http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=603
http://press.porsche.com/news/pdf/91...in_Detroit.pdf

Not a 911 replacement, however.

that car is not eligable for gte racing under current regulations, and i don't see why is everyone writing the 911 of, the 997 is at the end of its production, the replacement 991 is said to be much faster, it will have a dfi engine, dsg, and better suspension., and stiffer chassis, witch will add up to it being again among the fastest cars in gte.
I think 911 has a chance and will always have a chance as long as the power numbers stay where they are.

Spyderman · 8 Jun 2011, 05:45 (Ref:2893240)

Yes Arakis, but the word is that there will be a mid-engined car placed between the 911 and the 918. This car will not include all the hybrid malarkey, so it will indeed be eligible for GTE.

arakis · 8 Jun 2011, 07:51 (Ref:2893281)

ok, that would IMO suck big time, the 911 is a legend, and for it to be retired just doesent make any sense to me.
at worst they are below of a second slower then the leading pack in the GTE, thats on normal 90 second tracks. And thats with a 5 year old racecar, based on a 6-7 year old chassis, and a almost 20 year old engine. and thats without any waivers like corvettes and BMWs. Seriosly the 991 gt3 RSR would be more then enough to eliminate that gap.
If they do build a car between the 911 and 918, that would be awsome, but IMO the 911 should stay the GTE contender for porsche if for nothing else for the tradition off it.

Spyderman · 8 Jun 2011, 10:48 (Ref:2893347)

The word is also that the 991 GT3 will have the new 9A1 engine, which as you know is not a full dry sump engine , and therefore not an appropriate engine for racing. - These are all still rumors. Nothing has yet been confirmed, but.....

arakis · 8 Jun 2011, 12:01 (Ref:2893376)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

The word is also that the 991 GT3 will have the new 9A1 engine, which as you know is not a full dry sump engine , and therefore not an appropriate engine for racing. - These are all still rumors. Nothing has yet been confirmed, but.....

yeah but couldnt dry sump be integrated for the racing version, I think the regulations alow it.

come on, this is imposible, 10 years befor the classs consited of only 911. in my opinion that would be a huge error by porsche, and a huge hit for the series. I mean 911 are sinonimus with endurance racing, it just wouldnt be the same without them.

The Badger · 8 Jun 2011, 12:11 (Ref:2893381)

Hindy pointed out that in his opinion , the ACO should be rolling out the red carpet with respect to Toyota a bit more .

I agree .

deggis · 8 Jun 2011, 20:35 (Ref:2893869)

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...for-deltawing/

Oh noes.

**joeb** · 8 Jun 2011, 21:22 (Ref:2893912)

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Originally Posted by deggis

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...for-deltawing/

Oh noes.

I thought that car would have the chance to do some sportscar racing in some form. Although I expected it to be in America where the ALMS needs the numbers. Either way, I would love to see that thing running somewhere.

deggis · 8 Jun 2011, 22:21 (Ref:2893956)

What time is the ACO announcement tomorrow?

**FIRE** · 8 Jun 2011, 22:24 (Ref:2893959)

June 8 is new April 1st joke day?

AGD · 8 Jun 2011, 22:36 (Ref:2893963)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I thought that car would have the chance to do some sportscar racing in some form. Although I expected it to be in America where the ALMS needs the numbers. Either way, I would love to see that thing running somewhere.

It looks like male genitalia on wheels.

JAG · 8 Jun 2011, 23:16 (Ref:2893975)

Krohn said they are looking at options beyond GTE for the WEC.

AGD · 8 Jun 2011, 23:19 (Ref:2893977)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Krohn said they are looking at options beyond GTE for the WEC.

Ferrari LMP2 perhaps?

JAG · 9 Jun 2011, 02:27 (Ref:2894013)

If a Ferrari LMP, even engine option, is available, I'm sure you'd see plenty competing.

If nothing solid is reported this week, I don't think it's happening.

broadrun96 · 9 Jun 2011, 02:52 (Ref:2894016)

Thought Ferrari had said they couldn't turn out enough engines to build 458GTs to fulfill orders, never mind extras for any LMP projects. How long would it take for either Ferrari or a team to build up and test the engine for an LMP application?

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