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Old 24 Jul 2014, 14:25 (Ref:3437315)   #1
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Porsche Buys Kyalami

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/8134...mi-race-track/

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JOHANNESBURG—South Africa's most famous motor racing track just got an extension.

The South African unit of sports car maker Porsche bought the Kyalami race track for $19.5 million at an auction Thursday, easing concerns among racing enthusiasts that the winning bidder would tear up the track and build office or commercial buildings in its place.

Auction director Lance Chalwin-Milton says Kyalami will remain as a racing track.

Kyalami hosted 20 Formula One races between 1967 and 1993. It was dropped from the circuit in 1985 when South Africa came under an international sports ban because of white minority rule, and rejoined near the end of apartheid.

Past winners at Kyalami include Nigel Mansell, Niki Lauda and Jackie Stewart. Alain Prost won the last F1 race there in 1993.
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Old 24 Jul 2014, 14:33 (Ref:3437317)   #2
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Good news, unless of course Porsche now proceed to tear up the track and build office or commercial buildings on the site...
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Old 24 Jul 2014, 14:43 (Ref:3437320)   #3
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Excellent. No Oran Park horrors here.

People sometimes give a little bad press to the 'new' Kyalami but I find it very much awesome. Okay the only post-F1 racing I've seen there was with A1GP but it was fabulous, and it's a track without single bit of tarmac runoff (unless that's changed in the last five years)

Now Porkie, demand WEC to come there and I shall give ACO some slack for a change

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Good news, unless of course Porsche now proceed to tear up the track and build office or commercial buildings on the site...
Well it does mention "Auction director Lance Chalwin-Milton says Kyalami will remain as a racing track."
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Old 24 Jul 2014, 14:48 (Ref:3437322)   #4
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I really hope Porsche will put a little money into the circuit and maybe ... maybe bring a WEC round ... or at least ELMS.

Kayalami Nine Hours 2.0?
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ELMS has no reason to go there... and Porsche has no reason for ELMS to go there. I think our recent LMS discussions just prove that it's goals and purposes have been lowered on purpose...

For WEC this would work better as season opener than finisher TBH (if the questionable winter calendar thingie goes nowhere), late March after Sebring or early April. Please let it happen, that series needs proper events outside LM...
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Hmm, I wonder if Porsche will promote grass-roots racing now that Kyalami is bought? Oh wait, I'm thinking that Porsche would use Kyalami as their private test track.

On the other hand, will Porsche change the layout of the track?
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For WEC this would work better as season opener than finisher TBH (if the questionable winter calendar thingie goes nowhere), late March after Sebring or early April. Please let it happen, that series needs proper events outside LM...
If they go for the winter calendar, then it's a perfect candidate for a January/February date fitting somewhere in a spare weekend around Dubai/Daytona/Bathurst.
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Do Porsche own any other tracks, besides their test track?
This seems like a strange move. Why would they want to buy it?
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Old 24 Jul 2014, 18:03 (Ref:3437398)   #9
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Do Porsche own any other tracks, besides their test track?
This seems like a strange move. Why would they want to buy it?
It's probably the South African distributor only, not Weissach itself.
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Couple of test facilities in the US at least, Atlanta, LA, see http://www.porsche.com/usa/eventsand...drivingschool/
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OK, so Toby Venter is an enthusiast and he couldn't pass it up. He races Porsches when not running the business.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Kyala...llion-20140724
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Are Porsche going to "do the Red Bull at the Red Bull Ring" with Kyalami and give the circuit a dose of Tilke medicine so the FIA like it again?
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Do Porsche own any other tracks, besides their test track?
This seems like a strange move. Why would they want to buy it?
They own the Nardò Ring.
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I'd rather see the track restored to it's old glory!

And then we'll convert Silverstone, Hockenheim, Zandvoort, Imola, Red Bull Ring (aka Zeltweg), Road Atlanta, Spa, Fuji, Barcelona, Le Mans et all.

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Are Porsche going to "do the Red Bull at the Red Bull Ring" with Kyalami and give the circuit a dose of Tilke medicine so the FIA like it again?
Hmm? No the same situation. A1 Ring, while it was in pretty bad shape being abandoned before Red Bull bought it, the configuration itself was still good for Grade 1 and F1 GP. It is nearly unchanged from 2003.
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Hmm? No the same situation. A1 Ring, while it was in pretty bad shape being abandoned before Red Bull bought it, the configuration itself was still good for Grade 1 and F1 GP. It is nearly unchanged from 2003.
Judging from what we saw for the F1 race and the ELMS race this year, the only track layout alterations from the 2003 A1-Ring to the 2014 Red Bull Ring are changes to run-off and an altered pitlane entry.
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I doubt Porsche has any reason to asphalt-ize the runoffs* especially if it's not meant to be a test track for the "big guns". And if WEC ever comes there, I'm not sure if they have the power to "demand" it either (they're not F1 / Bikes / NASCAR)... certainly not need

* Though then again I saw recent footage from Ferrari's Fiorano and it's slowly happening there as well
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Porsche does a lot of it's road car testing in South Africa in the Western Cape. As stated in the article, it will be a great place to integrate some of Porsche's business in South Africa there and could be used as a driving school as well.
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Another bad translate and this might just be something that the article's author came up with, but:

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Venter has no lofty plans with Kyalami, but preferred a cautious development. First, the manager would like to raise international racing series such as the WTTC or the Endurance World Championship. A reliable partner would certainly also Dorna welcome for the Superbike World Championship.
However seeing as WSBK could be involved at some point and we have fresh nightmarish decisions coming from their end when it comes to track alterations one would hope that they don't get too excited. Also the worrying bit:

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To the depraved race track - on the grounds of horses are kept as 'lawnmower' - to get into shape, something needs to be invested. "We have many ideas in my head, but details are not fixed yet," beckons from Venter, who wants to be inspired by existing racetracks. The planting of thousands of trees is well established already, asphalt and buildings are renovated. As a model Silverstone is intended, where Porsche is also involved.
Model of Silverstone? Ugh

edit - Endurace World Championship (Endurance-WM in German) could also refer to the FIM World Endurance Championship I guess... original titles

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WSBK was meant to be running at Phakisa this year but the round was cancelled due to a funding shortfall (for facilities upgrades). I would imagine there is less to fix there than there is at Kyalami. Although Kyalami's location is much more useful than Phakisa's...
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With WSBK it's funny as on the other hand they go to such unspoiled gravel trap / grass heavy & minimal fencing classics like Phillip Island and Laguna Seca, and then for the next round they are at Aragon or wherever shiny and you hear them demanding safety sanitation upgrades for even Grade 1 tracks... it's weird.

In that aspect they could do current Kyalami just fine.
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Talk of plans, upgrade to Grade 2 and WEC race intent.

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Perhaps better for the wec thread, but Montreal, Mexico City and Monza are mentioned at the end of the motorsport-total article. Is that saying those tracks want a wec race?
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Montreal and Mexico wouldn't be in this context for the first time (http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/m...tion-for-2015/)
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