2023 Indycar championship fight

NaBUru38 · 6 Jun 2023, 13:30 (Ref:4160214)

Standings after Detroit:

1. ESP Álex Palou (Ganassi Honda), 273 pts
2. SWE Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi Honda), 222
3. USA Josef Newgarden (Penske Chevrolet), 203
4. NZL Scott Dixon (Ganassi Honda), 194
5. MEX Pato O'Ward (McLaren Chevrolet), 191
6. USA Alexander Rossi (McLaren Chevrolet), 176
7. NZL Scott McLaughlin (Penske Chevrolet), 175
8. AUS Will Power (Penske Chevrolet), 172

Palou's worst result so far is 8th at St Petersburg.

Ericsson's worst result is 10th at Barber.

**joeb** · 6 Jun 2023, 17:41 (Ref:4160262)

I think he already has this thing won. He won't all the sudden get worse as the season goes on, Top 5s till the end will just about do it

NaBUru38 · 17 Jul 2023, 13:53 (Ref:4168767)

Standings after Toronto:

1. ESP Álex Palou (Ganassi Honda), 417 pts
2. NZL Scott Dixon (Ganassi Honda), 300
3. USA Josef Newgarden (Penske Chevrolet), 291
4. SWE Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi Honda), 275
5. MEX Pato O'Ward (McLaren Chevrolet), 274
6. NZL Scott McLaughlin (Penske Chevrolet), 258
7. DNK Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Honda), 248
8. AUS Will Power (Penske Chevrolet), 242
9. USA Colton Herta (Andretti Honda), 239
10. USA Alexander Rossi (McLaren Chevrolet), 230

**joeb** · 17 Jul 2023, 17:13 (Ref:4168802)

After the early season woes at Rahal, it is pretty amazing that Lundgaard is in 7th!

Teretonga · 19 Jul 2023, 04:18 (Ref:4168979)

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Originally Posted by joeb

After the early season woes at Rahal, it is pretty amazing that Lundgaard is in 7th!

I think its great.
Even though we have Palou in a dominant position, the battle behind him is frantic,

The RLL performance also shows us how tight the field really is from front to back.
A team back in 20th is often just a step or two from a podium if they can get their engineering ducks lined up and things fall their way on a good day.

Indycar really is one of the most competitive forms of open heel racing on the planet.

broadrun96 · 19 Jul 2023, 13:32 (Ref:4169058)

Does make me wonder what will happen with MSR and LC, Pagenaud is outside at 25 and behind his replacement and Helio is at 20 but at risk of dropping more than moving up based on points gaps. 4th team cars aren't eligible so Armstrong at 16 is not eligible but will drop this weekend a bit as he is not in the car (I think), 53 points ahead of Helio and 68 on Pagenaud. But I can never remember if it is all points earned in that car or earned by that entry and driver, so Daly could really help them move up this weekend.

Teretonga · 20 Jul 2023, 03:01 (Ref:4169131)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Does make me wonder what will happen with MSR and LC, Pagenaud is outside at 25 and behind his replacement and Helio is at 20 but at risk of dropping more than moving up based on points gaps. 4th team cars aren't eligible so Armstrong at 16 is not eligible but will drop this weekend a bit as he is not in the car (I think), 53 points ahead of Helio and 68 on Pagenaud. But I can never remember if it is all points earned in that car or earned by that entry and driver, so Daly could really help them move up this weekend.

I think its points earned by the car/team, not the driver...., but that's just guessing.

Armstrongs points keep him in place for the rookie title even though he's not in one of the three cars (Probably why Penske never went to a fourth car after Pagenaud left) but will they give Rookie of the Year to him or prefer to choose one of the 'full time' drivers rather than Armstrong?

Performance wise he scoops it relatively easily.

mstets · 21 Jul 2023, 04:40 (Ref:4169247)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Does make me wonder what will happen with MSR and LC, Pagenaud is outside at 25 and behind his replacement and Helio is at 20 but at risk of dropping more than moving up based on points gaps. 4th team cars aren't eligible so Armstrong at 16 is not eligible but will drop this weekend a bit as he is not in the car (I think), 53 points ahead of Helio and 68 on Pagenaud. But I can never remember if it is all points earned in that car or earned by that entry and driver, so Daly could really help them move up this weekend.

I wasn't aware that 4th team cars weren't in the running. I think it's points earned by the car.

mstets · 21 Jul 2023, 04:53 (Ref:4169248)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

I think its points earned by the car/team, not the driver...., but that's just guessing.

Armstrongs points keep him in place for the rookie title even though he's not in one of the three cars (Probably why Penske never went to a fourth car after Pagenaud left) but will they give Rookie of the Year to him or prefer to choose one of the 'full time' drivers rather than Armstrong?

Performance wise he scoops it relatively easily.

I thought season rookie of the year was based on points, unlike the Indy 500 ROY, which Malukus deserved to win in 2022 but didn't do to letting the press vote. Armstrong is 43 points ahead of Canapino heading into Iowa, so it would take two top ten finishes for Augustin to catch up. It's possible that could happen and could leave Armstrong vulnerable since he won't be in the car at Gateway. Both drivers have been impressive.

**Adam43** · 23 Jul 2023, 19:31 (Ref:4169596)

Either way that would be a joke. Stingy is rookie of the year. Still if he doesn’t win it this year he’ll win it next.

NaBUru38 · 29 Aug 2023, 14:01 (Ref:4174513)

Standings after Gateway:

1. ESP Álex Palou (Ganassi Honda), 565 pts
2. NZL Scott Dixon (Ganassi Honda), 491 (-74)
3. USA Josef Newgarden (Penske Chevrolet), 440 (-125)
4. MEX Pato O'Ward (McLaren Chevrolet), 429
5. NZL Scott McLaughlin (Penske Chevrolet), 426
6. SWE Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi Honda), 397
7. AUS Will Power (Penske Chevrolet), 388
8. DNK Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Chevrolet), 343
9. USA Alexander Rossi (McLaren Chevrolet), 339
10. USA Colton Herta (Andretti Honda), 331

**Adam43** · 2 Sep 2023, 17:05 (Ref:4174892)

25. USA Sting Ray Robb (Dale Coyne Racing), 122

NaBUru38 · 14 Sep 2023, 16:40 (Ref:4176644)

Final standings:

ESP Álex Palou (Ganassi Honda), 656 pts
NZL Scott Dixon (Ganassi Honda), 578
NZL Scott McLaughlin (Penske Chevrolet), 488
MEX Pato O'Ward (McLaren Chevrolet), 484
USA Josef Newgarden (Penske Chevrolet), 479
SWE Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi Honda), 438
AUS Will Power (Penske Chevrolet), 425
DNK Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Chevrolet), 390
USA Alexander Rossi (McLaren Chevrolet), 375
USA Colton Herta (Andretti Honda), 356

Rookie standings:

NZL Marcus Armstrong (Ganassi Honda), 214 pts
ARG Agustin Canapino (Juncos Chevrolet), 180
USA Sting Ray Robb (Dale Coyne Honda), 147
DNK Benjamin Pedersen (Foyt CHevrolet), 129

And Armstrong missed the ovals...

**Adam43** · 15 Sep 2023, 00:22 (Ref:4176681)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

25. USA Sting Ray Robb (Dale Coyne Racing), 122

23. USA Sting Ray Robb (Dale Coyne Racing), 147

Up 2 places. Trending in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

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NZL Marcus Armstrong (Ganassi Honda), 214 pts
ARG Agustin Canapino (Juncos Chevrolet), 180
USA Sting Ray Robb (Dale Coyne Honda), 147
DNK Benjamin Pedersen (Foyt CHevrolet), 129

And Armstrong missed the ovals...

What are saying is that Armstrong shouldn’t be eligible. I agree.
Also Canapino isn’t eligible because of the clash with Ilott for obvious reasons.

So the moral rookie of the year is Stingy.

**joeb** · 15 Sep 2023, 14:13 (Ref:4176734)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

What are saying is that Armstrong shouldn’t be eligible. I agree.
Also Canapino isn’t eligible because of the clash with Ilott for obvious reasons.

So the moral rookie of the year is Stingy.

If you recall, the rookie of the year at Indy doesn't have to be the highest placing driver, so lets just use that same logic here. Stingy is rookie of the year.

E.B · 15 Sep 2023, 20:56 (Ref:4176778)

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Originally Posted by joeb

If you recall, the rookie of the year at Indy doesn't have to be the highest placing driver, so lets just use that same logic here. Stingy is rookie of the year.

Cant fault the logic or the motion. Im in.

**Adam43** · 23 Sep 2023, 18:40 (Ref:4177932)

That’s official.

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